Hello Team,
Who Killed William Robinson?
First Look up briefly who was William Robinson (context is Canadian History in the 1860s)
know check out this website
http://canadianmysteries.ca/en/index.php
follow the links to the mystery surrounding his death. It is an entire case study. Go through the links and like a CSI investigator come up with a theory on who is responsible for his death.
interesting case............
ReplyDeleteHenry Sampson- found Willam Robinson on the ground shot , and this is what he described the house-No window in the House. The door was on the north side about the centre of the house.(That proves that whoever murdured willam had to know him to know that there was no window and that the murdurer had to come though the door the murderer already know how the house of willam robinson looked)
this is very interesting,and i think the killer was either Tshuanahusset or some who was close to Tshuanahusset,I think he was either ordered to kill William or he was framed by another aboriginal man,BUT I found that there was a man named Tom and an aboriginal named Schystatis , swore that he went to the house with the prisoner Tom, who told him he was going to kill Robinson, and wanted him to assist in robbing the house.That piece of info i found was very intereting becuase they are guessing it was Tom,but at the ame time they're saying it's Tshuanahusset. But the jury is doubting that Tom murdered Robinson,but really i think Tom and Tshuanahusset were connected to this and probably they were both connected with the murder.
ReplyDeleteWilliam Robinson was murder in the year of 1868,in Salt Spring Island where 3 unnconnected brutal murders happened.All the murders were blamed on Aboriginal people.William Robinson murded was blamed on an aboriginal person by the name of Tshuanahusset,an all white jury declaimed Tshuanahusset guilty of the murded.The all white jury sentenced Tshuanahusset to death.On the site they mention no evidence/reason to why they blamed the murded on Tshuanahusset.
ReplyDelete"In the case of William Robinson, an all-White jury found an Aboriginal man, Tshuanahusset, guilty of killing the Black settler and sentenced him to death."
ReplyDeleteSo apparently a Aboriginal Man named Tshuanahusset was guilty of killing William Robinson ?
The Police officer Henry Sampson had said that he had found William on the floor with is clothes all burst up but when I looked at his picture of his house and him death there his clothes were all perfect he was still dressed has if he had dressed to go somewhere his clothes weren't burst up.
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ReplyDeleteHenry Sampson had a said the door was locked which shows me that either the murder forcefully took the key or already knew where he kept it.Henry had always seen a chest when he went to robinson's house(one or twice a week) but he doesnt remeber whether he saw it or not on the day robinson was murdured.Hnery also saw no gun.........and he said he always saw one above robinsons fireplace.........(interesting)and it was a double barrel gun------- same type of gun robinson was shot with........
This case is very different and very unknown who killed William Robinson.
ReplyDeleteThe victims who were blamed for William Robinson were apart of the island's black community (coincident) ?
"Two of the murders were officially unsolved. In the case of William Robinson, an all-White jury found an Aboriginal man, Tshuanahusset, guilty of killing the Black settler and sentenced him to death." Why was Tshuanahusset guilty if he never killed William Robinson ? Why was he blamed for it and threaten to die if he did kill Tshuanahusset ?
The murder of William Robinson was on a specific "event"
So .. who killed William Robinson ?
From what I have found in the Official website and Wikipedia, it said that a local Chemainus Indian named Tshuanahusset was responsible for the murder of William Robinson. The best clue they had was the gun they had found in Tshuanahusset house, under his bed. But when they had gotten the gun it was lost in the lake after it fell out of the Constable’s canoe. But the mystery got more clueless when after Tshuanahusset’s execution another African-American was murdered. I think both those murders were connected in some way but it is hard to know who actually murdered William Robinson. But you never know if it was Tshuanahusset who killed William Robinson or if he was an innocent man.
ReplyDeleteAn Aboriginal man named Tshuanhusset(nick-name Tom) murdered William Robinson thats what people said but no body is really sure about who really did but even though Tshuanhusset was more of a suspect he was still hanged even when they werent sure about if he really did kill William.R.
ReplyDeleteHappened in 1867-1868 at the north-end of salt spring island, Canada.
William Robinsonlived in a time period where there was a lot of rasism and hate for the people of dark skin.
Janat i think you could ne right because i guess there is really no point of killing someone if you dont know them, probably the murderer knew who he was and decided to kill him becuase of the colour his skin was,or just becuse he was trying to change the world for the coloured community.
ReplyDeleteI got my info from the site Mr.Cheney put up and Wikipedia
ReplyDeleteI think that the man convicted of murdering Robinson wasn't the real murderer,I think it was a local white because in the article i read on the site it talks about how colured people didn't dare to leave their kids and wives alone for even a day.Robinson was shot in the back while eating(he was found with a knife in his hand ),he lived alone and his account books where missing so the person who killed him wasn't a guest and was also a theif as well as a murderer.Also the article says the murderer forced his way in by taking out a log near the door for Robinson was living in a log cabin without windows (which is sorta stupid)and shot him from beside the hearth
ReplyDeleteThe trail was on June 2, 1869 about a year after the murdurer which was in 1868
ReplyDelete@Arvinder that could be true he did live in the time of rasism.
ReplyDeleteHenry Sampson had said that his gun was missing and the chest was missing. That means the murderer had used William's gun cause it was missing and why would the gun be missing Wouldn't the murderers have his own gun? So this means that the murderer was well acquittance with William and knew he had a gun. The chest was missing that would means that the killers would want to show the murders was for money. If he got shot from the back then wouldn't he fall on his face?
ReplyDeleteWilliam Robinson was a Black American who was killed on Salt Spring Island in British Colony of British Columbia in 1868. An Aboriginla man named Tshuahusset(his nick name was Tom)with his two other friends, all in total there were three black who killed William Robinson but they are not sure who did but bsed on the information i got they said it was Tshuanhusset. But the information doesn't say if the murder was related to William Robinson. i did a lot of research on it but i can't find it even on the site Mr. Cheney gave us. so that's one of the question i have but from the information i think it was someone William's knew it might not be related but someone he knew.
ReplyDelete@Rukis i agree with you that the mudurer wasnt a guest and the knife he was found with was said that it was only used for cutting i food i guess nothing anout slef defense or anything.And i dont think it was "Tom' but if you think its anwhite man, which one becsue it has to be one who actually knew him and about his house like about what i said about the key thing or the gun one.
ReplyDeletethe gun shot with the the same type of gun as robinson was shot with and it wasnt found but wiht him eating wouldnt her know someone had come and the door opened or isnt his fireplace closer to him then the murdurer soo why was his gun missing???
William Robinson lived in a time where there were only a few African- Americans that lived in canada and most in the u.s.
ReplyDelete@arvindersabharwal, Wikipedia could also have false information because there information isn't accurate and people to change it from there own computers .. i wouldn't trust that website.
ReplyDeleteI agree with brown kid the gun is a big clue for it wz deffinatly a murder not a sucicide or accident
ReplyDelete@Hitakshee , do you think Tshuahusset (Tom) may have killed William Robinson ?
ReplyDeleteWilliam Robinson was a black american who had been murdered on Salt Spring Island in the British Colony of British Columbia. he was one of the three residents killed, all three of them were black. Tshuanhusset was an aboriginal man, and he was accused of Robinson's murder. Tshuanhusset was convicted and hanged.
ReplyDeleteDurring the years of 1867 and 1868, a community at the north side of Salt Spring, was where three "unconected" murders took place. Three people from the black community were killed and blamed on aboriganal people.
The murderer in fact was Tom. The house had no windows so the person had to come through the door, At the time when he came to the place with Sui tas she had stayed in the canoe when he went into the house. She only went when she got cold into the house, she saw Tom just a little bit away from the fire. He told her if he killed him they would take what was in the house, William was cooking at the time probably not noticing Tom was in the house. Sui being scared she went out of the house and was scared. All she heard was a gunshot, when she came back he William was on his back when he got shot sitting on his chair. He was holding a knife in his left hand, so here's what i think Tom was sitting near the fire Sui went out side, William turned around noticing Tom lunged at him with the knife Tom stumbled out of the way fell down while pulling the explaining how the bullet tilted up on to his shoulder blade just under it.William fell on the chair making him gall on his back with the chair in between his legs. And got shot in the back but the bullet didn't pass through his body but got stuck in the back, so he bled to death. The smaller whole in the front part of his chest was made another bullet or a scar since the bullet would have left a gash the same size on the back. But the strange part was that he fell backwards. When you get shot you fall the direction the bullet was going since the force pushes you the same direction unless your shot in the head your body will tilt the direction your head falls. And his clothes was all teared which is strange since he was holding a musket in stead of a shot gun the bullet would just pass through smoothly, and not make a bunch of tears on the clothes. There would also be some blood on the front part of the body, This is what i think happened when he got shot He was still alive since it was under his shoulder blade but not piercing through his lungs. It got stuck causing him to bleed to death so when he fell he was trying to get up but instead gell down on to the floor.
ReplyDeleteHenry Sampson had found the door locked and it looked as if the murdeder had not forced his way into the house.The murder either had the key to enter the house or simplyed found another way to enter with is unlikely.Henry said that ever time he goes there theres a gun hanging over the fireplace this time when he went there was no gun and William body had two gun shots.In williams left hand he had a knife as if when the person entired he tryed to protect himself.I think that the murded used gun that was hanging over the fireplace to kill william then took the gun and possiable the key with him when he left.
ReplyDelete@ stephanie but what if Tshuanahusset didnt do it,he could of been framed but yet most of the class so far is saying that it could of been Henry Sampson who killed William, and also it could of been an aboriginal,probably the aboriginals decided to kill the coloured because maybe they were settling into their land,but in my perspective,i dont really understand why murder turns into a gmae of "blame it on the next guy".
ReplyDeleteI think the murderrer was Tom because his brother Charlie said that there was a saw found in his that some say it was made by the victim. There could also be a chance that it could not be him because all of the murders where placed on Aboriginal settellers,hmm... how interesting. Who do you think framed the Indians? Tshuanahusset must have had it in for William Robinson so he did what he had to do,but an all-white jury sentenced him,what do you think that means?
ReplyDelete@ stephanie the reason the door was locked was because it was open the entire time but when William died Tom took the key locked the door and threw the key away
ReplyDeleteWilliam Robinson was a real person, a Black American who was murdered on Salt Spring Island in the British Colony of British Columbia in 1868. All of the victims were members of the island's Black community and all of the murders were blamed on Aboriginal people. In the case of William Robinson, an all-White jury found an Aboriginal man, Tshuanahusset, guilty of killing the Black settler and sentenced him to death.
ReplyDelete@Tarundeep , it depends on the way William Robinson was sitting when he got shot, and do you think that the chest has a important role in the murder ?
ReplyDelete@Jan101 irt says the murderer probably shot him from the fireplace and since he had no windows the murderer took out a log near the door and got in like that(probably a small log so he cold rweach in and unlock the door allowing he/she to enter unnoticed)Also im not sure which white man killed him but it was probably a 'friend' and he wasn't as shocked to see him and then BAM! out cold dead
ReplyDeleteIt is clear that tom shot robinson because it says that when they went in the house tom said if i shoot him you get the goods then the guy said no and went out he heard a gun shot whent back in and saw william on the floor and tom picking up stuff but there was 2 bullets in his body and tom only had 1 bullet in his gun so who could have shot the other one i think he survied the shot but then someone else came and shot him agin.
ReplyDeleteThis is a add on to my other comment the long one
ReplyDeleteEven when William died he still took everything for himself since he wouldn't need it since he was dead.
@ Nida
ReplyDeletewhere is your response?
@Pamela, if Tshuanahusset didn't kill William then who did .. and why was he hanged because he was an aboriginal ?
ReplyDeleteThis case is very compelling, nothing seems to be out of the blue, except for the fact that there's two bullet holes inside William's body, and Sue-tas testified that Tom had a musket, which is single-barreled. Sue also testified that he heard a single gun-shot. That brings thoughts up. Two Bullet wounds, one shot. Just to add a little thing before I derive to my conclusions, There was a gun hanging over William's Fireplace.
ReplyDeleteOk, Heres what I think happened, Tom Did indeed kill William, because many of the townspeople testified that they saw William's ax in Tom's Shack. Sue also testified that Tom took his ax, and a couple of other things. Also, many of the men that testified, have been said to have used that ax, atleast once, so they knew how the ax felt like. A question raised was how Tom got into William's house, well I believe that he faked as a trapper needing a place to stay, explaining why he had a gun. Then William went to eat, but then the simple etiquette of having people over is to offer them food, and I believe that it was only William eating, so Tom must have snuck in, But through where? There were no windows, just a door. So I just believed my original derivations of him pretending to be a trapper, and thus, that lead to William having his food and the gun was shot. After the murder, once Tom was captured, one person inspected the Body, and stated that there were two bullet wounds, whilst a musket is single barreled. What I thought of that was that since there was a gun above the fireplace, I think that it hadn't been shot in a while, and since Tom shot his musket, it would have triggered the gun, facing in the direction of William, but parallel to his left side. So then the gun would have shot and deflected of the log wall and hit him in the back. With All That, I believe that Tom is guilty.
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@Pamela , do you think that Tshuanahusset is responsible for the death of William Robinson and the other victims ?
ReplyDelete@Pamelaa , i finished my response but then i copied something over it by accident and then it disappeared , you saw it happen -.-
ReplyDelete@ talha when it said to bullet wounds it meant one in the back and one in the front.
ReplyDeletei agree vanessa i also don't understand why murders turn into a game of blame to the next person but when i think about this i think it is becasue maybe they want their revange from someone or maybe becasue they don't want to get in trouble. bnut to be honest it doesn't really make sence to me like i don't get it.
ReplyDeletean aboriginal was executed for the murder of William Robinson, after the execution, studies have shown that there is evidence that challenges the guilty. one of the evidence was that the Indian was threatened to murder Robinson for his trouble returning back to his tribe. how Robinson was murdered was a shot to the back while sitting and having his meal the weird thing is that when he was shot, he was lying on his back but he should be lying on the table or on his front of his body
ReplyDeleteI agree with Abdullahi most crimes were put onto the inuit (most likley cuz they to were coloured)but the 'tom' guy was on trail mudering an inuit woman
ReplyDelete@sharpshooter1948 thats what they think happened but did they say on the site if they found the key because when henry went in he wedge a piece of wood into the door to get in.so henry forced his way in but that was after william was dead.
ReplyDeleteAmrit you know how you were talking about like William Robinson might have been in a time period of racism and hate well i want to ask you a question WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT HE WAS BORN IN THE TIME OF HATE AND RACISM?
ReplyDelete@vanessa I agreeand they didnt mention on the site any evidence of why tom(Tshuanahusset) was suspected but they did sentence him to death.I think he was framed...
ReplyDeletethomas i disagree with your comment made earlier i dont think it was tom i think it was Henry Sampson cause he is lieing about his clothes being all messed up and if he didnt kill him then he knows who did do the murder.
ReplyDelete@traundeep henry said that his clother were all busted and bloody why dont you belive what he said?
ReplyDelete@hitakshee don’t u think that whipping people of dark skinned, selling them like a piece of useless garage, and making them slaves is racism and hate?
ReplyDeleteso how isn’t William Robinson born in a time of hate and racism?
that should answer your question.
@Jannet hw cn he nt rmember if he saw the key the day William R. was murdered because he said that he remembered seeing it every time he came and visited. So, its either he saw it or not.
ReplyDeleteThink about it...
@Crippled Egyptian Pharoah
ReplyDeleteThat long comment you made tells everything about the murder and I agree with that. But what you said...
The gun would have shot and deflected of the log wall and hit him in the back. With All That, I believe that Tom is guilty.
I don't agree with that because William Robinson was facing the wall when he was eating dinner and the time of his murder. So when Tom shot him it would of anyways shot him on the back, and I don't think a bullet can rebound off of wood.
@Talha I agree, why and hw could Henry have heard only one gun shot? When there were 2 on his body? May be he could have been the murderer or killer, Maybe there were more than one killers or murders involved in this scene.
ReplyDeleteJust maybe Henry could have been one of them.
@prayas i agree i think that the murded came in the house and william was surprised turned aroung with the knife in his hand then got shot because when henry found him he was still holding the knife in his left hand.
ReplyDeleteWho killed William Robinson ? According to the people who "solved" the case , a Aboriginal person named Tshuanahusset (Tom) did . But did Tshuanahusset really kill William Robinson and the other victims ? No one knows for sure , apparently after Tshuanahusset had been hanged , some of the information was found irrelevant. "Two of the murders were officially unsolved. In the case of William Robinson, an all-White jury found an Aboriginal man, Tshuanahusset, guilty of killing the Black settler and sentenced him to death." Possibly the jury may have thought since Tshuanahusset was Aboriginal and William Robinson and the other victims were black , Tshuanahusset has killed them because he may have been racist. Was Tshuanahusset guilty ? Or was Tshuanahusset framed ? Questions that may or not be answered , so who killed William Robinson ? , the mystery still goes on.
ReplyDelete@Brown kid I agree, Hw could William R. be eating dinner while his murder actually its possible, but how could he be eating dinner when he got shot twice?
ReplyDelete@Stephanie, I agree its possible it could have happened that William R. could have had a surprise attack and could have been killed with a knife and gun shot. Maybe thats why Henry heard one gun shot when really William R. was wounded twice.
ReplyDeleteInteresting topic....
But what I don't get is after he was murdered how could he still be holding on to the knife, it would of came out of his hand.
ReplyDelete@prayas maybe when he was shot first he fell to groud still alive and still holding the knife then after he was shot a second time he died but the strange thing is amrit said that henry only herd 1 gun shot but they said that there were two bullet wounds.
ReplyDelete@ stehp it could be that someone else also came and shot him agin or that the bullet came through his chest because the shot at the front was only 2cm higher then the one on the backso it could have hit of his bone or somthing and whent higher up
ReplyDelete@usman i don tthink so because henry only herd 1 gun shoot but there were two bullet wounds but i do think that Tshuanahusset had some help from someone else.
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