My first immpression of the book was that i thought it would be a bit boring or too much about the boy and girl stuff but afterwards it started getting a bit interesting but still i liked the We all fall down series better.
From what i know this is going to be an epic book with because theres going to be drama and emotion or like CSI with the cheating and the not trusting people and all the suspense
Sarah : I think she turned different before she got caught for cheating on the mid-term geography because she used to be smart and study but then the guy she barely knew (Jake) gave her the answer and she just went on the flow and cheat.
Katie : She was dumped by Rob to get the answers from Sarah, and now he is at this point were he did the wrong descion
Rob : He dumped a great girl Katie for Jake's geography mid-term answers to at least pass without studying and now he is panicking.
Dan : He is the one who is confused and he is trying to say what, who what are you talking about, pretending what he doesn't know what is happening.
Jake : He couldn't believe that a girl sat beside him, and he stole the answers from her sister and gave them out to people.
Sarah looks like the type of person that will use her beuty to get you to do stuff, and then stab you in the back
you know like in those stupid movies when the teenagers are in high school and they are the cool kids and others dont exist, and the wonderful Sara is the center of atention. and the only time she will talk to you, is when she wants something from you
my impression of the book is that it gets confusing and under-estimating to me because how the book switches the perspectives of each character and what they talk about;it makes you wonder whitch person is telling the story for now
Sarah : She seems like one of those people that she would do anything to get out of studying .. and will use her beauty to get anything she wants .. she is taking advantage of it ..
Katie : She is confused .. so i think her of Stupidity .. she wouldn't memorize the answer and she got very stupendous that she is very nervous .. to cheat.
Rob : He is panicking and then he made this ego descion that he will dump Katie for Sarah to get the answer to pass the test, and he wouldn't fail.
Dan : He cheat and when he went to the principal office he was acting all confused and was like what where what did i do, don't call my dad so i think him as of one of those typical guys who do that after they got caught for cheating.
Jake : He was begging Ruby for the geography mid-term answer and Ruby blamed him for him not to study and he just went threw her personal drawers and took her old answer and gave them to everyone .. i think he is one of those guys who is a very sneaky guy who loves to cheat and give people answer so when or if he gets caught other people will get along with him.
I thought this book was confusing at first because first a girl narrated the story than a boy did.
Katie: I thought katie was the cheater and she was sarah for a minute because this story was because i was confused i thoght only one person was narrating thi s story.
Sarah: I thought that sarah was Katie
Dan: I thought Dan loved Sarah and would do anything for her. I also thought he was a girl at first untill I heard "he"
I think the stories kinda confusing at the start but i know its gonna get a little better and i think Dans kinda like me because he always acts dumb at the start then when hes in the office and the principle lays the evidence out hes gonna crack under pressure and tell the truth and its funny how he acts dumb cause its so obvious hes not telling the truth
Sarah - everyone loves just because boy gave her answers doesn't mean that she would talk to him/ like him.
Katie - panicked, getting ready for sisters wedding lunch , want to get copy of exam , dumped for Sarah Cheated on test. used a song to cheat on test. teacher was watching her. thinks father is watching from heaven. Scared of getting caught. difficulty with cheating
rob- panicked; scared having difficulty with the test , stressed.
Danny - gives answers
Jake - couldn't believe cute girl sat beside her stole answers from sister.
Ruby - Danny apologizes to ruby for what he did. Dan broke up with ruby. Dumped her for Sarah.
Sarah: My impression of Sarah is that she seems like the popular girl, the kind who thinks its all about her, and will use her beuaty to get people to do what she wants them to do. She thinks she is the center of attention and anyone who is below her doesnt exist.
Katie: Katie seems like the kind of girl who would never actually cheat, or do anything to break the rules. which is probably why she is freaking out.
Rob: To me rob seems like the kind of guy who is a coward, but he acts like he can do anything even if he scared out of his mind. The kind of guy who would never cheat in his life because he is to affraid of the concequences.
Dan: Dan seems like the jock kind, the kind of guy who is popular doesnt care about anyone else, thinks he is #1. like in the movies where theres always that one guy like the captin of the football team, who thiks he can get anyone to do anything.
Jake: My impression of jake is that he is the kind of guy who is the schools biggest geek, no one wants to be around him. Jake is the kind who will do anything for the most popular people in school, anything to get near the populars.
The book is pretty intresting, but its kind of weird how all this is happening and these kids are only in grade 8, our age.
Katie:doesn't want to cheat and has a hard time she probably doesn't
Rob:Willing to cheat and thinks he's the smartest kid ever begins to think highly of himself till the end where he realizes the mistake
Ruby:Thinks only about herself and how shes going to be alone and datless and cares about how her boyfriend treats her like a boy or a friend and like and like and like.............
Rob: Horrified of his father stresses out way to much literally losses it when thinking about his old man usually a good boy
Sarah: Thinks she is important,feels stupid for cheating thinks everyone is blaming him,thinks katie is ditching after snitching on them and all negative thoughts
Dan: Is denying it even though he knows their found out
Jake: Has a crush on Sarah,apparantly big enough to go into his sisters room and take her filed last year test is a stupid jock that doesn't know his face from feet.Doesn't want to get in trouble
how Dan talks is like a pimp who thinks he owns people and how he talks is like he wants to bet his butt kicked be everyone;because its in his tone and the words in that tone that make him think that he is the almighty darthinder
Sarah: My first impression on Sarah was a show off, snob girl who thinks she is all that. I think Sarah wants to be the prettiest girl in the school and the coolest thats why she will do anything to be the best.
Katie: Katie is the girl who does anything anybody says she is like a follower not a leader.
Rob: I think rob is a good boy who never does something wrong and if he does something wrong he will get so scared.
Dan: I think Dan is the guy who will do anything to be cool he will talk back to the teachers and act all tough in front of everybody.
My first imperssion of the book was a book about cheating because of its name , and how the students in the book deal with it.
Sarah - I think Sarah is one of those people that think they rule the school and she would do anything to get out of studying. I think Sarah may be changing because she got caught cheating , either she would want to do it again and try not to get caught , or she would not want to cheat again because of what the principal and her parents said.
Katie - I think Katie is the type of person that wants to be "cool" even tho she doesn't like what they do, for example cheating, because in the end Katie didn't cheat she was picking random questions and answering them. I think Katie getting dumped by Rob for Sarah had a big impact on her , especially if Katie and Sarah were friends.
Rob - I think Rob is the type of person that wants to get out of studying and he does anything to get what he wants. He dumped Katie for Sarah just for the answers, I think thats wrong because Katie seemed like a great girl and its not good that Rob is only dating Sarah for the answers.
Dan - I think Dan is the type of person who would so something bad, but only if they don't get caught. I think he regrets cheating on the test because hes really scared about what his dad's going to say and pretending not to know whats happening is going to make things worse because it would be better to tell the truth instead of telling a lie.
Jake - I think Jake has low self-esteam because when a girl sat next to him he got nervous. I think Jake thinks hes not good enough to talk to a girl because when a girl sat next to him he couldn't believe a girl was sitting next to him , and him being helpless that a girls sitting next to him .. he gave her the answers.
I think when everyone gets caught their going to try to tell a lie but there is going to be one person that tells the truth , and thats going to get them in even more trouble because they didn't tell the truth in the first place.
I think the book is interesting because every chapter their is a different characters perspective. I am not sure if I read a book like that before,but you know what they say about how trying new things is good and I am enjoying it.
Sarah-My first impression on sarah was that she can get things with even trying like how she got the answers for the geography test.
Katie-My first impression is that she does not like to cheat and she is very careful ablut doign it and that every second she would think about doing it
Rob-My first impression on him is thatwould do anythign to get the answers even leave his girlfriend.
Dan- My first impression is that he waould do anything to pass his mid-term test by cheating of anythign else.
Jake-My first impression on jake is that he is the kind of person who is very snecky and would do anything for someone else as long as he gets something in return.
My first impression of the book is that it is kind of jumpy and interesting,because they made the book by using different people's perspective from different parts of the book.
Sarah to me is a person who thinks she all that because of her looks.
Katie is a person who isn't used to cheating or getting in trouble because when she was writing the test she couldn't begin herself to cheat.
Dan is one of those stupid jocks who only care about sports and not much about school and his grades.
Rob is more of a person who does care about school but not alot.He does care about sports but not of those jocks.
Jake to me is a geek who everyone doesn't like and like the book said that all the girls would throw up at the sight of him.Also that all the jocks would bully him and pull pranks on him.
Jake sounds like the loser in the movies, with the "mommas boy" hair cut and the big shiny braces with the ugly dirty shoes, that will do anything to get some good attention, (which explains him giving Sarah the answers.)
@Mr.Cheney, i don't think Katie snitched, because while she was doing the test she got mixed up with cheat answers so she was wrong so she didn't have last years answer and she isn't apart of it.
Prayas i think what you say about the characters is true because: Sarah sounds like shes one of those spoiled little brats that are cute and beautiful but are stinkin rich Rob seems like those little baby that he does the crime but cant do the time because hes scared of his parents. Katie seems like annoying little girl and that sticks in the past Jake is straight up loner and just cant get a girl to like him since to me he seems ugly and since i guess he has no freinds he always seems desperate
The book is interesting since that it shows everyone's perspective to add up on how they got caught cheating. It would be very interesting if how they are not trusting each other and a huge fight broke out, causing everyone started being suspicious about what each other are doing and scheming how they are going to rat each other out. But instead they are stalking each other.
Sarah seems "like" the type of person that doesn't care about how other people feel or what they are saying. She also didn't seem to care about what jake did for her when he gave her the answers for the mid term exam, which is really naive.
Katie is just really the type of person that doesn't want to pass the test this way. She seems like the person that is really honest and wants to have authenticity with her work if she pass.
Ruby is the type of girl that is ignorant to what people say when she is made and only hears what people say and misunderstand what they mean. Because of her ludicrous actions.
Rob is "like" the person that just wants to worries a lot since he doesn't want to get busted.
Sarah: I think sarah is the bigshot girl that is very extra and every other girl wants to be in her crew.
Katie: is the girl who thinks why does every boy fall for her she just have a prety face and she is the girl who does not really care about boys and she is really smart and every time she hears about somthing unfair she starts a protest aginst the school.
Rob: I think he is the guy who is cool about doing bad stuff then when he thinks about what he did he thinks about what is going to happen he goes crazy and thinks what did i do and over reacts and talks about police finding out and becoming a number one wanted crimanl.
Jake: He is the guy who always gets bullied since grade one and then the girl of his dreams talks to him so he is willing to do anything for her.Then one day he becoms the hero for them all like spider man he is a geek at school then he becoms the hero without even any one knowing.
Dan: is the guy who is cool about every thing and doesn't panic no matter what happens because he always has a back up plan and he is the guy who gets all the girls and is in the football plays quater back
Katie: she doesnt have the guts to cheat,she pressures herself to cheat. Rob: he is layed back, he doesnt know anything about GEO,he is confused. Ruby: she is kind of negative,she doesnt know what to do, but she angry. Rob: he worried for his father. He doesnt want his father to know about him cheating.
Sarah: she feels stupid,trying to hide the fact that she is sacred.
Dan: acts like he doesnt know what mr.white is talking about,he was happy to see other people introuble with him.
Jake: he is in love(likes)Sarah alot,he is syked about about Sarah talking to him.
Well from what we read so far, I am guessing we know all the characters in the book. So basically they got answers for the test they are doing, and by accident they did the wrong test and got sent to the office. The test they did was from the year before I believe?
dan seems like the type of person that thinks he cam physic out people by acting dumb so people will leave him alone, because that will be irritating. He only does this if he think he will get in trouble. I'm guessing he vexed the principle before.
Jake seems like the person that is forgetful since was distracted with helping his girlfriend's sister's engagement party, and forgot to study. He also likes to take a short cut if there is a short notice, the test was a good example he remembers last minute.
@ elpresidente the test answer was actually from jake's sister i think; she likes to file things. The test answer are from last years test but the test they had recently took has been changed as in the order. it shows the different perspective of the people that cheated on the test.
Oh I see and now theyve been caught because their test answers clearly show that theyve worked toghther or at least cheated somehow so whats the big mystery?
I agree with Janet and Tarundeep's posts and I have another thought about THE CHEATER.
I think that the book is hard to follow because I never read a book that every chapter is a disticnt summary of a character's thuoghts. I find the book a little bit complex because as I said I am new to reading books like this. However I find the book a bit interesting because the book is not written in a consistent manner so never know what is going to happen next,so if you a the good reader that Mr.Cheney talked about at the beginning of the year you will be imagining the story in your head as it goes along. I would recommend this book however,I would reccommend it to an oldre group (I would say grade 6 and up).
@ EL Presidente the book is writen in different perspectives so if might me a bit confusing at the begining but once you know who talking its easyer to understand the book.
thomas i think you are mixing up jake with rob because jake kind of knew that he would never get a beak that is what he said rob was the guy who was begging not to tell on him.
@abdullahi i agree wiht yopu but the only thing is i have read a book with more then 1 persons perspective but in this book there many so i would also recomand it for a older group of kids grade 6 and up.
I guess everyones still on the identifying the characters stage and so zak im lost too so i guess a bunch of kids cheated on a test by using last years andswer because one of the kids said that its the same every year(the test is there mid terms) and so the dude that took the midterm gave them the answers too it so the used those answers and ended up getting caught for it now there in the office and each chapter is each of those students perspective of whats going to happen and how some of them are scared
I think that she is not the person to cheat on tests because she was panicking while doing the test. She is probably always honest and doesn't want to get into trouble.
Just like Katie a bit. He is scared to cheat on his test ; doesn't want to get in trouble. I think he does stupid things just to get his way. Just like when he broke up with Katie for Sarah just for answers.
@Thamil so what are all the ties between the characters. From reading the comments it seems that one lad gave everyone of them the answers from his sister is this right.
If so I see how theyre all tied togther. The book sounds extremly interesting, books like these really put you into the head of others so everyone becoems like a main character. By the way is their any one main character in the book upto this point. I wonder with cheating why people go through all the trouble and use all that energy just to cheat when they could do the same and use the same amount of energy to study.
Sarah sounds like some average girl that doesn't care about what Jake really is.She sounds like someone popular,and she might have a history of insufficient marks due to her social status.By having this social status,it might lead her to having a superiority complex of some sort too.
Stephanie and Abdullahi i agree with you because many of the perspectives get confusing and you have to know who is the character to know them a and yeah I've also read a book before with more then one perspective
sorry to have come on so late, watching the specialist (true classic)
@mr. Cheney I am starting to think that Katie sniched, because after all that stress from what she was doing during the exam, maybe she just lost it and confessed, letting out everyone who was doing it, which explains why now sarah is wondering why katie isnt in the principals office with her. i think the teacher just cut her a break, because Katie diddnt really cheat because she diddnt do anything
@EL Presidente i don't think there really is one main character because it has many perspectives and different views of each other.And i think people would rather cheat then study because cheating is actually easier and some people just look for easy ways to get things done and over with and sometimes studying is really boring
Katie sounds like some mediocre girl,possibly with an inconsistent grade pattern.She becomes desperate enough to get the cheat sheet,but then she panics when it gets down to the final moment? It's like,now the integrity starts to show? It doesn't even deserve to be called integrity,the feeling of revealing a facade because of the fear failing is terrible.If Katie was actually smart,cheating wouldn't be the option,getting help from a teacher would be the real answer.
Rob sounds like a guy who always fails, is lazy,mediocre and now he’s succeeding by cheating. This feeling of not being able to be caught by acting nonchalant,''natural'',is completely false.There is no security imminent in this situation (the idea to not get caught).Rob can stay lazy,but he can't stay like this for the rest of his life.At some point,he'll have to get up and make a change.
He could do that,or he could rot the rest of his pathetic fictional existence in a hole,and if he can roll over,he can roll over and die.
@Pamela, i agree with you .. if Katie couldn't cheat on the geography mid-term then she is known as the wimp .. or perhaps scared or can not cheat.
I think Katie is so scared t cheat because what f she got caught(like the rest of the students) she wouldn't want a call to go home or to be suspended so i think she made the right decision for not being such a great cheater.
@Adam Also,she sounds a bit cliche.In all the movies,there's always that girl that the other girls ''envy''.It's a bit funny seeing the perspective of the girl that's never focused on but is seen as ''popular'' in media.
Sarah : I think Sarah of one of those typical girly girls that have the looks and get "guys" attraction by just smiling and giving them a hint to show that they are interested in them .. and she could get ANYTHING out of the guy, example the geography answers and maybe more as the book will go on.
@daethinder, is not that they "envy" then, that would be a little wired. its more like that people hate her and always try to prank her etc king of like girls on jakes "level" that hate sarah cause of her popularity. thats how it usually is in the movies.
@Adam, i dis-agree with you because Katie was panicking during the mid-term exam that she didn't fully memorize the cheats potentially that she epically forgot it, so she didn't get the last year exams cheats, but yet wrote different answers.
i dont think that katie snitched because it said that she had decided to mixed up her answers, and if she did snitched she would probably be question on how she found out and she would either lie or tell the truth, that she had the answers too. But katie doest seem like the kind of girl who would lie, like a goody goody.
Katie : She is a very naughty girl, she wants to get everything she wants but doesn't succeed .. she is one of those type of girls were she gives other girls dirty looks and always starts drama, and spreads a lot of fake rumors.
Rob : I think Rob as one of those jocks/players. Jock = He is smart but loves to play spots etc, and Player because he moved on from dumping his girlfriend Katie to dating Sarah to get the answer for the mid-term Geography exams ..and i think now he will regret everything he does.
@Niida, yeah that is what happened, Katie forgot the song and the rhythm she made to help study for the answers and when it came to the mid-term exams she totally lost her mind and she forgot everything, so she just put random answers..
Ruby sounds similar to Katie,but a bit more unsophisticated.Her use of ''like'' is so massive,that her vocabulary that could be so vast is not.Her outrageously miniscule taste in the art of English seems distasteful.
She seems,confused,scared,sad and angry.Without Rob,she could feel sad that she doesn't get to spend time with him.
Dan : I think Dan is one of those boys that plays and acts dumb (not going to mention any names but cough cough Tamil) that when they get caught he acts and plays dumb and ask all these question example, is that my test, did i really cheat, what did i do. and He himself Dan knows all the answer but trys to fool the teacher but i'm pretty sure that the teacher know that he had cheat.
@talwinder, it wasnt rob who dumped katie, katie wasnt even dumped it was ruby who got dumped by danny, and he didnt dump her, he just wanted the answers.
Jake : I think Jake as a lazy person, cheater, doesn't like to study, and do anything for the cheat/answers, and when Jake gets a hold of the answer he will try to impress his friends or girls and give them the answers so they could be a bit close, just like what happened with Jake and Sarah.
Dan knows why he is in trouble,but now he needs to start acting like he didn’t cheat.He needs to act like it is the most ridiculous thing in the world.He sounds pathetic,like the rest of them.
He knows the problem,but he just makes it worse.He's useless in this kind of situation.They increase the risk of getting caught by decreasing the chance of being snitched on.Which is like the same thing.
@Talwinder , remember the song .. the "cat boy cat boy" stuff ? Katie remembered the song but she didn't think it was right to cheat therefore she picked random questions and started answering them instead of going through the questions in order.
@Mentally Superior in the Dark Arts of Negativity and Criticism,Artistically Overpowering,Imperial Overlord of the Entire Universe and beyond,Darthinder, I think Dan as put him as this position where right now he is panicking and pleading the principal not to give a call home etc.
@Mentally Superior in the Dark Arts of Negativity and Criticism,Artistically Overpowering,Imperial Overlord of the Entire Universe and beyond,Darthinder , do you dislike Dan the most out of all the characters we know about so far ?
@Niida, no Katie was the one when she was confused during the test she panicking because she forgot the song, or was the Sarah ? I am really confused about this book "Cheat"
@Mentally Superior in the Dark Arts of Negativity and Criticism,Artistically Overpowering,Imperial Overlord of the Entire Universe and beyond,Darthinder, i think Dan is the most ridiculous and the most pathetic one because is playing dumb with the principal and that may lead him to more trouble and thats not a good sign because im pretty sure every child doesn't want a call home saying that your kid was caught cheating etc.
@Niida, yeah because at first the chapter was about them, i never knew each chapter was their perspective, and saying what they are thinking inside themselves.
Jake sounds like the average ‘guy’.He doesn’t sound very confident.He uses the cheat sheet as a way to get with Sarah;Pathetic.I think he'll be an important character in this story.Maybe he'll attain a fake friendship with Sarah,impressing her with cheat sheets and other (in the end) meaningless signs of affection.
@Niida, Katie didn't cheat she had the song but she didn't want to cheat because she is a "too scared" or perhaps you can "too nerdy" to do it and get caught and get in big trouble.
@Mentally Superior in the Dark Arts of Negativity and Criticism,Artistically Overpowering,Imperial Overlord of the Entire Universe and beyond,Darthinder , do you think Jake should forget about Sarah so he doesn't need to make cheat sheets for her and her friends ?
@Stephanie, i agree with you, but do you think Katie snitched, or do you think Katie will be the "hero" of the book and save there lives from a call to there parents?
@Talwinder He's probably in a position even worse than that.You heard how he'd give an organ (as an expression) to show how desperate he was.In the end,I really think they'll get in trouble,get a punishment and they'll remember it for the rest of their education.
@nida, i dont think katie would cheat because like i said she seems like the goody goody type, and i dont think she would snitch because she would probably be asked how she knows that they all cheated, and since i see her as a goody goody she wouldnt be able to lie.
@talwinder, im pretty sure that it was dan and ruby going out because ruby was the girl who was all like....and like....and like
@Talwinder , that's what i said -.- , Katie didn't wanna cheat so at the last minute she didn't , she decided to switch the questions, and her doing that helped her not get in trouble.
@Mentally Superior in the Dark Arts of Negativity and Criticism,Artistically Overpowering,Imperial Overlord of the Entire Universe and beyond,Darthinder, yes i agree, but do you think Katie will be the hero of the book and let them off the "hook" and tell an excuse to get them trouble free.
@Bailee , i agree .. she seems like a goody goody , therefore she didn't cheat .. and it seems like shes a good friend too , so i don't think shes going to snitch.
sorry i couldn't post before my computer isn't working well. My first impressions of this book, it's like the author is a grade 8 student with a great imagination. but it is kind of confusing since there are many different perspectives from different people.
Sarah: my first impression on her would be she acts smart but she is not really and how she thinks she is the best because she get attention and all.she seems like a showoff person.
Katie : she sounds like a girl who is smart but is really lazy.
rob : first impression on him would be he likes to think about him the most ; so selfish.
Dan: seems like a person who would do anything wrong without getting into trouble and he sounds like he is really scared of his father.he shows like he is tough but not really and likes to act cool.
Jake:he sounds like a person who gets distracted easily.and he tries to get attention but fails and end up getting caught in cheating.
@Stephanie , Katie ended up picking random questions and started answering them so the song wouldn't help her and she didn't end up cheating like that.
@Nida I hate Dan's fictional guts! His character is so expectable.The character doesn't seem like an interesting one.All his moves are predictable.Acting like not knowing anything? I've seen it happen so many times with students here at this school.
@Nida Of course Jake could do that,but what kind of boy would actually stop giving cheat sheets and stop being ''with'' a ''popular'' girl? It's easy to say something can be done,but in real life:What boy would say no to this Sarah situation?
@ nida ya,that what's I said the author was writing the story from grade 8 students perspective because most of the characters are grade 8s.and also in the story the different perspectives are from the grade 8 students.
@Mentally Superior in the Dark Arts of Negativity and Criticism,Artistically Overpowering,Imperial Overlord of the Entire Universe and beyond,Darthinder , do you think Dan tries to act cool but he isn't ? xD
@stephanie i agree with you and i don't really think Katie snitched but maybe she just snitched up her answers because she was randomly doing them and she didn't even remember it all anywayz,the teacher probaly compared the answers then relized some are alike (as last years) and called the people with the same answers
i find the book pretty intresting, because we r all grade 8s imagine if this was happening with us. Its pretty amazing how this could actually happen in our class
@talwinder at this point in the book in not sure i think that it could go either way but i do think that she didnt snitch i think she was to scared to cheat so she answered the questions in a way that she could not cheat
@ nida i think the author is doing a nice job up till now and i hope the ending is not so officious. and only if we knew better when, which person is telling us their part of the story from their perspective.
what do you think?could she would have made is better?
@Mentally Superior in the Dark Arts of Negativity and Criticism,Artistically Overpowering,Imperial Overlord of the Entire Universe and beyond,Darthinder , you make a good point. Do you think even if Jake finds out Sarah is "using" him, would he still be friends with her and give her sheets ? I think so.
@Stephanie, Katie was to scared to cheat i agree but making prediction would help to make the book more suspenseful tomorrow, so what do you predict will happen?
@Heli , i agree .. the story would have been better if it would be easier if we knew who was talking from who's perspective because we started reading the book yesterday i think and people are already confused about it :P , I think the author could have made it better by making the story more clearer, I think this is the type of the book that you would need to re-read some of the parts because of how confusing it is.
@heli thats what most authors try to do they try to leave clues while there writing but try to make the ending something that the reader wont figure out or an ending that fits where the book is at.Just like in rebound the endind was kinda ovious but it fit the book bu david not being able to walk again.
@ nida and bailee i disagree with you guys ;if you were jake would you like it if someone told you that a friend of your, they actually used you.and their are not friends, i don't think Jake will be friends with Sarah if it was like Sarah used him and he found out.
@Bailee , do people see Jake as a geek ? I think people see him more as a loser then a geek, or Jake may see himself as a geek or loser , because what we read from his perspective .. he said how he couldn't believe a girl was sitting next to him , and a girl like Sarah sitting next to him got him even more happy.
@Nida He doesn't try to act cool,but I know he needs to keep his cool.The second that there's sweat,voice cracking or some uneasy energy,the principal will know it is a lie.Think about how many delinquents that principal has dealt with.
From a school like these characters are in,many students seem to be pathetic.If this is some school history,like a pattern,then the principal should recognize it right away and fail all the students.
@ Stephanie some authors do that leave clues and it leads to the ending which we can guess and be correct. but what i meant was that the ending they are going to get in trouble and get caught but have another ending to the story not just that.
@talwinder umm ok i think that katie will get called to the office but not for cheating but for the fact that the principal is hopeing she will tell him/her(i dont remember who the principal is)who gave the answers to the class.I also think that while katie is there she will panice and spill everything she knows or keep her cool and only give information that is only slightly helpful.
@Heli , it depends on the person Jake is , so far we only know a few pages about him , there's a lot more of us to learn about his character .. so we can't say anything exact right now. A lot of things could happen with Jake and Sarah , maybe a friend of Jake tells him that Sarahs using him but Jake doesn't believe them , so there's a lot that can happen , but we don't know anything that we can say for sure.
@Mentally Superior in the Dark Arts of Negativity and Criticism,Artistically Overpowering,Imperial Overlord of the Entire Universe and beyond,Darthinder , in a way Dan does try to act cool , and i agree with you .. if he doesn't stop acting really nervous the principal would figure out he's telling a lie. And Dan seems like a kid that acts tough in front of his friends but hes scared to act like that in front of his parents , for example ; when the principal was saying he was going to call his dad Dan got really scared.
@ gurinder what makes you think that this has happened so much at that school, it doesn't go into much detail about that @ heli or the ending could just be what they were thinking about if they cheated, i think i read that in a book.
@Thomas This is inferred.From the background knowledge I have about how students act when they get caught in the midst of inappropriate methods in the process of being used,and my expectations of an experienced principal,I believe I can create a hypothesis.This hypothesis being the idea that the students are all pathetic and the principal has dealt with this before.
@Nida Dan seems to act like this: ''If you show your enemies that you are weak,then you will lose''.If Dan has no signs of fear,the principal might be fooled into thinking that this student is telling the truth (even though he's not!).
We don't know if Dan has a history of being in the principals office.How many times has he got caught cheating,vandalizing or anything against the code of conduct?
@Thomas That question was a rhetorical one.From Sarah's perspective,soon enough she will discover Jake's real purpose about sharing the answers.She might've realized the moment Jake tried to ''help'' her by introducing a cheating method.If she didn't,she might not realize until the end;When this sickening catastrophe is resolved.
@Usman and Niida, what you guys are talking about leads to reputation, everyone wants to be at the top, but not possible, so you gotta maintain that and be at the medium level.
I don't see how the students are all pathetic one of them didn't cheat, from what i think it is just the type of students like Dan for an example that is pathetic as an example, acting dumb is not believable, he could have at least put up a better performance, or like jake i think who's just thinking how screwed he is when his dad finds out he cheated on his test, and got caught. If Jake is able to keep it cool then Dan should be able to do it with no sweat, as long as he doesn't get to anxious if principle chen believes his act.
The story just began, there is so much more to, so many scenarios, and predictions, like 90% is going to wrong, but at least you are engaged in the book and looking forward to what is going to happen in the next time we read the novel again.
@Usman , i agree .. it seems like he would do anything for the guys to think he is cool , but when they said they were going to call his parents he got really scared , showing he isn't as tough as he says he is.
@sharpshooter i agree with you Jake should have really though about this before and now hes really scared and worried what his dad his going to think and what will happen to him and for dan i think acting dumb isn't really going to him or maybe it even might
@ gurinder rhetorical question or not i'm just stating what i think about that situation, even though that is possible to happen.
If she does soon find out about the real reason for him helping her she would just use him to her advantage. Just think of it this way someone helped you with something and can do much more, wouldn't you abuse that fact by manipulating them into thinking that the both of you can make it easier for that task. Or you strike a deal if you are the bargaining type just in case they don't believe you.
@Mentally Superior in the Dark Arts of Negativity and Criticism,Artistically Overpowering,Imperial Overlord of the Entire Universe and beyond,Darthinder , good point. I have a feeling Dan isn't going to be able to handle being in the principals office and he may just keep on being nervous. There's still a lot more to learn about Dan's character.
@Niida, i agree with you, but Jake and Rob are really scared and very nervous at this point they are very desperate to not get in trouble, remember when he said "he would give his organ just please don't cal my parents."
@Talwinder , i agree .. it seems Dan just wants a "cool" reputation and he may do anything to get it. It seems like Dan doesn't wanna stay at "medium" level , it seems like he wants everyone to respect him and for everyone to think hes cool.
@sharpshooter1948, i am just asking of your opinion of Rob at the moment .. it could definitely will be answer in the future but i want to know you thought and your feeling about Rob, do you think him as of pathetic person to, or do you think he has a different personality different from Jake and Dan.
@Niida, i don't Dan is cool at the point of the book, because he is acting like a jerk pretending like what is going on and what is not going on, playing the stupidity game .. that isn't cool, it just plain lame.
@Janat , i agree .. we don't know much about the characters , but we still need to predict whats going to happen next , it helps the story be interesting :P .. and for sure we cant say what each persons characters exactly like , because we can't know their actually like in a few pages.
@ nida he probably wanted an easy a since he is obviously the type of person that when given the answer not knowing if it is right or not he takes them instead of studying.
@Talwinder , i agree .. Dan isn't cool at this point of the book , but i think he is trying to be , and i agree .. playing stupid isn't going to get him anywhere.
@Usman , i agree .. i think he may even start crying when the principal calls his parents :P , and i think Dan's going to try to be cool even after he has a breakdown , but i think it won't be as easy to become "cool" after that.
@ usman what do you mean by all the guys will look down on him? as in you cheated but you got caught, you ain't that good, cheat only when you know how to cheat.
@Sharpshooter , he seems like the guy that would do anything to get out of studying , even if it means cheating .. and getting an easy A seems perfect to everyone , but it seems like he doesn't like working hard to get his A's.
@Talwinder , he thinks him playing stupid is going to get him out of trouble , but that isn't going to work and he should know that .. and he may be acting "extra" it depends on how far he goes with acting "stupid".
@Talwinder I agree it'll just get him into more trouble because he's making more and more lies to cover up one lie. I think he shouldn't act like he doesn't know nothing because everyone knows he was apart of it and there is no point for lieing.
I agree with nida at least put on a convincing act acting like you don't know what is going on he is already deep in the bowels of trouble, now he is just sinking deeper in, not drowning. that happened when he was cheating.
Jake... I think people see him more as a loser then a geek because what we read from his perspective, he said how he couldn't believe Sarah was sitting next to him and that got him happy. He was excited that a girl sat beside him for once.
I agree with (Jan 101)because we don't know much about the characters, but we still need to predict whats going to happen next because it helps the story get interesting and the reader wanting to read on....
@Usman I agree, I think he may even start crying when the principal calls his parents, and I think Dan's trying to be cool even after he has a breakdown. Dan should just stop pretending that he doesn't know anything the principal is talking about. It's funny how the book's name is The Cheat, and the story started out as a bunch of kids who cheat.
@Sharpshooter he seems like the guy that would do anything to get out of studying. He want's to just pass and not study for anything. Getting an A is a hard thing so all of them just wanted to take the easy way out and cheat.
@ prayas i agree with you because he said that not somany people in the school like him and run away from him so that is why he probobly offerd the answers.
I think Jake should forget about Sarah so he didn't need to make cheat sheets for her and her friends...
I think Rob might be under pressure and feel guilty for commiting the cheating that he might tell who started with the cheat sheets. So he might snitch but maybe not because he's right now thinking about himself, how he doesn't want to get in trouble and get his parents to know what happened. So it's 50/50. Same with Katie. She too is 50/50.
@Thomas I do believe I am entitled to call them pathetic.Cheating? How desperate do you have to be to stoop to such a low level!? (Rhetorical!)
It's completely unfair to all the students that try to make it through school by studying.These fictional students must of been studying for countless hours so they can answer correctly.
@Thomas But this doesn't mean that if you keep studying and ''working hard'' you will succeed.It's never guaranteed,but studying always gives you more potential,and a better chance at succeeding.
When you step down to such a low level,lower than the dirt and worms;there you will find cheaters. By accepting to cheat,you tell yourself that you are incapable of succeeding,so you must cheat.If you think that this would be a ''one time thing'',it is completely false.After cheating once,you'll keep cheating until you're caught.
Then you have to decide:Turn your education into the right direction and have bright future,or keep trying to cheat and live a miserable existence.
@ Heli I agree,the perspectives of grade 8s are very realistic.I wonder If the author used his/her experiences at school to form the book,or an interview.Starting of the book was confusing for me,because I didn't understand the format of the book,which is moving along the story,while the book keeps switching the characters that speak (perspective and what they think).
@Heli There is no real example of Katie being lazy.When she was struggling to pick up the pencil,it was because her conscious was telling her not to.All of a sudden,she felt ''integrity'' as a result of being terrified by the event of getting caught.What it really was,was that Katie was caving in.
But of course,Katie caving in doesn't mean that she told the truth about the cheat sheet.Sarah is believed to be some voluptuous woman that Jake is mesmerized by.Could Sarah have some other admirers? Stalkers,maybe? Those kids might want to rat out Jake so they can have Sarah for themselves.The story is from the perspectives of the kids,but we don't know what's happening around them.There could be eavesdroppers everywhere!
@Heli About Sarah,was she actually thinking of all those ideas to save the world? Saving the world from poverty and war,etc. Was she thinking sarcastically in her head or did she really mean it?
If Sarah actually means all those goals she might have about saving the world,then that is one interesting character! The intention to save humans by taking a personal advantage to get closer to a goal.Like doing something bad so you can do something good.
Then again,she could be lying and Sarah's some scum bag
@Jan By calling previous participants,It wouldn't make a difference.The whole exam is the ''fill in a circle'' routine.It can't be used as evidence of cheating.But,if it was a written exam,then it could be used as evidence.
@Jan Although style of writing might not be evident,and participants from previous years can't make a change,the naming can.The older sister's name was written on the exam,along with the date and what mark she might've got.If the sister went to the school the previous year,the Principal might recognize her work and then expel all the cheaters,call their parents and place a severe punishment.
@Brown Kid Jake is pathetic! He knows that it was just a coincidence but he makes himself believe,like a false hope that some day Sarah will fall in love with him,or some other crazy ending.
@Brown Kid Why does Jake continue to think like this? Maybe this is why he is classified as a ''loser''.He knows what his problems are,but he doesn't do anything about it.He thinks that,if he cheats that Sarah will become more than an acquaintance with him.All he really is,is a tool.Once Sarah doesn't need help anymore,she can throw it away;like Jake's heart.
@Brown Kid Jake will never forget Sarah,because he believes that she will be with him if he gives her the cheat sheets.Jake is the whole reason the book exists,but Jake has weak character traits.Being seduced by a classmate of the opposite gender? How many times have we seen that in cartoons?
@Brown Kid I think Rob and Katie are at this ''50/50'' thing because they thing that they need to look natural when they are at risk of being caught.When they were discussing the cheat sheet,there could've been people around that were over hearing.I agree that there's pressure on Rob,and that Parents are always a fear when you get in trouble.I wonder what the parents would do if they actually come...
@Talwinder I agree,Sarah does sound a little manipulative.I don't think it'd be a strong enough manipulation to get out of the principal's office,unless she's a good actor.We saw the part where she was making an ugly crane analogy,but maybe she can act!
@Brown Kid Katie does sound fragile.She looks like she would be the one to cave in first,but I don't think it is that.An anonymous student must've tipped off to another student or teacher and that's how the principal knows.It could've been a janitor,a school yard teacher or maybe a passer by.
@Brown Kid Thinking That Katie would cave in sounds too easy.Would the author really write something so easy to understand? There needs to be a plot twist,something completely brand new! If it can't have something surprising,something convoluted and out of the blue,it's really not worth reading.Because in reality, you can't predict everything to happen.The backgrounds of these characters,they could have traits that would make one of them cave in.One that seems like the strongest character.
@Usman Sarah sounded almost humble.She didn't sound very pretentious,nor very self conscious.She had her goals in mind,and she knows what she wants to do.She knows,but then she keeps cheating.Sarah's a pathetic Scum Bag...
@Vanessa I agree,Katie is strong enough to get the opportunity to do something,but not strong enough to actually do it.For example,when we were going to promote the bully awareness cause.We had enough initiative to think about how to promote it,but then when it came to the end to actually do something,everyone pulled back and ignored it.
@Jan I think ruby needs to find what her priorities are,and then solve them.Her ''special friend'' left her and now she's alone.She is alone and confused.She needs to find out what she wants to do,what her goals are,and then put social activities after that.
@Bailee I agree,It does show all the things that grade 8's do.It's realistic,I've seen all these scenarios happen before.It's nice to read about the perspectives of the students.I only get to spectate from a distance,but to actually ''know'' what it might feel like to be them is amusing.But not just amusing,but it's telling.It tells us about our own selves;how we actually are.
@Tarundeep I wouldn't say she's a snob.Her goals are a bit too high,but there's no actual evidence of her acting pretentious.She is very aware though.She knows what's going on around her,and she'll do what she has to do.
My first immpression of the book was that i thought it would be a bit boring or too much about the boy and girl stuff but afterwards it started getting a bit interesting but still i liked the We all fall down series better.
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ReplyDeleteFrom what i know this is going to be an epic book with because theres going to be drama and emotion or like CSI with the cheating and the not trusting people and all the suspense
ReplyDeleteSarah : I think she turned different before she got caught for cheating on the mid-term geography because she used to be smart and study but then the guy she barely knew (Jake) gave her the answer and she just went on the flow and cheat.
ReplyDeleteKatie : She was dumped by Rob to get the answers from Sarah, and now he is at this point were he did the wrong descion
Rob : He dumped a great girl Katie for
Jake's geography mid-term answers to at least pass without studying and now he is panicking.
Dan : He is the one who is confused and he is trying to say what, who what are you talking about, pretending what he doesn't know what is happening.
Jake : He couldn't believe that a girl sat beside him, and he stole the answers from her sister and gave them out to people.
Sarah looks like the type of person that will use her beuty to get you to do stuff, and then stab you in the back
ReplyDeleteyou know like in those stupid movies when the teenagers are in high school and they are the cool kids and others dont exist, and the wonderful Sara is the center of atention. and the only time she will talk to you, is when she wants something from you
Rob sounds like the persons that talks, the talk, but cant walk the walk, because he cant complete the test without cheating
ReplyDeletemy impression of the book is that it gets confusing and under-estimating to me because how the book switches the perspectives of each character and what they talk about;it makes you wonder whitch person is telling the story for now
ReplyDeleteMy first impressions of everyone ..
ReplyDeleteSarah : She seems like one of those people that she would do anything to get out of studying .. and will use her beauty to get anything she wants .. she is taking advantage of it ..
Katie : She is confused .. so i think her of Stupidity .. she wouldn't memorize the answer and she got very stupendous that she is very nervous .. to cheat.
Rob : He is panicking and then he made this ego descion that he will dump Katie for Sarah to get the answer to pass the test, and he wouldn't fail.
Dan : He cheat and when he went to the principal office he was acting all confused and was like what where what did i do, don't call my dad so i think him as of one of those typical guys who do that after they got caught for cheating.
Jake : He was begging Ruby for the geography mid-term answer and Ruby blamed him for him not to study and he just went threw her personal drawers and took her old answer and gave them to everyone .. i think he is one of those guys who is a very sneaky guy who loves to cheat and give people answer so when or if he gets caught other people will get along with him.
I thought this book was confusing at first because first a girl narrated the story than a boy did.
ReplyDeleteKatie: I thought katie was the cheater and she was sarah for a minute because this story was because i was confused i thoght only one person was narrating thi s story.
Sarah: I thought that sarah was Katie
Dan: I thought Dan loved Sarah and would do anything for her. I also thought he was a girl at first untill I heard "he"
I think the stories kinda confusing at the start but i know its gonna get a little better and i think Dans kinda like me because he always acts dumb at the start then when hes in the office and the principle lays the evidence out hes gonna crack under pressure and tell the truth and its funny how he acts dumb cause its so obvious hes not telling the truth
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ReplyDeleteSarah - My impression of Sarah would be that she is a girly girly or someone who wants everything.
ReplyDeleteKatie - My impression of Katie would be the girl who panics when under pressure.
Rob - The guy whos the good boy. Doesn't ever want to get into trouble because he get scared of his parents and principal.
Dan - The boy who acts like he doesn't know anything when in trouble. Makes lies and exucess. Dan talks like a pimp who is all that and funny too.
Jake - The guy who is despreat for a girl to talk with. Also wants romance and acceptince.
I found the book "The Cheat" very confusing, but now i got the hang of it there are 5 main characters, Sarah, Katie, Rob, Dan, Jake.
ReplyDeleteI think Jake caused this whole problem by giving everyone the answers, if he didn't the rest could've pasted with there knowledge of studying.
Katie, was confused while she was doing the test
so i believe she was wrong with the cheat answer she was giving so i don't think she was apart of it.
Sarah - everyone loves just because boy gave her answers doesn't mean that she would talk to him/ like him.
ReplyDeleteKatie - panicked, getting ready for sisters wedding lunch , want to get copy of exam , dumped for Sarah Cheated on test. used a song to cheat on test. teacher was watching her. thinks father is watching from heaven. Scared of getting caught. difficulty with cheating
rob- panicked; scared having difficulty with the test , stressed.
Danny - gives answers
Jake - couldn't believe cute girl sat beside her stole answers from sister.
Ruby - Danny apologizes to ruby for what he did. Dan broke up with ruby. Dumped her for Sarah.
Sarah: My impression of Sarah is that she seems like the popular girl, the kind who thinks its all about her, and will use her beuaty to get people to do what she wants them to do. She thinks she is the center of attention and anyone who is below her doesnt exist.
ReplyDeleteKatie: Katie seems like the kind of girl who would never actually cheat, or do anything to break the rules. which is probably why she is freaking out.
Rob: To me rob seems like the kind of guy who is a coward, but he acts like he can do anything even if he scared out of his mind. The kind of guy who would never cheat in his life because he is to affraid of the concequences.
Dan: Dan seems like the jock kind, the kind of guy who is popular doesnt care about anyone else, thinks he is #1. like in the movies where theres always that one guy like the captin of the football team, who thiks he can get anyone to do anything.
Jake: My impression of jake is that he is the kind of guy who is the schools biggest geek, no one wants to be around him. Jake is the kind who will do anything for the most popular people in school, anything to get near the populars.
The book is pretty intresting, but its kind of weird how all this is happening and these kids are only in grade 8, our age.
Katie:doesn't want to cheat and has a hard time she probably doesn't
ReplyDeleteRob:Willing to cheat and thinks he's the smartest kid ever begins to think highly of himself till the end where he realizes the mistake
Ruby:Thinks only about herself and how shes going to be alone and datless and cares about how her boyfriend treats her like a boy or a friend and like and like and like.............
Rob: Horrified of his father stresses out way to much literally losses it when thinking about his old man usually a good boy
Sarah: Thinks she is important,feels stupid for cheating thinks everyone is blaming him,thinks katie is ditching after snitching on them and all negative thoughts
Dan: Is denying it even though he knows their found out
Jake: Has a crush on Sarah,apparantly big
enough to go into his sisters room and take her filed last year test is a stupid jock that doesn't know his face from feet.Doesn't want to get in trouble
how Dan talks is like a pimp who thinks he owns people and how he talks is like he wants to bet his butt kicked be everyone;because its in his tone and the words in that tone that make him think that he is the almighty darthinder
ReplyDelete@Masterchief I agree,
ReplyDeleteThe story is confusing because you dont exactly know whos talking and when.
Sarah: My first impression on Sarah was a show off, snob girl who thinks she is all that. I think Sarah wants to be the prettiest girl in the school and the coolest thats why she will do anything to be the best.
ReplyDeleteKatie: Katie is the girl who does anything anybody says she is like a follower not a leader.
Rob: I think rob is a good boy who never does something wrong and if he does something wrong he will get so scared.
Dan: I think Dan is the guy who will do anything to be cool he will talk back to the teachers and act all tough in front of everybody.
My first imperssion of the book was a book about cheating because of its name , and how the students in the book deal with it.
ReplyDeleteSarah - I think Sarah is one of those people that think they rule the school and she would do anything to get out of studying. I think Sarah may be changing because she got caught cheating , either she would want to do it again and try not to get caught , or she would not want to cheat again because of what the principal and her parents said.
Katie - I think Katie is the type of person that wants to be "cool" even tho she doesn't like what they do, for example cheating, because in the end Katie didn't cheat she was picking random questions and answering them. I think Katie getting dumped by Rob for Sarah had a big impact on her , especially if Katie and Sarah were friends.
Rob - I think Rob is the type of person that wants to get out of studying and he does anything to get what he wants. He dumped Katie for Sarah just for the answers, I think thats wrong because Katie seemed like a great girl and its not good that Rob is only dating Sarah for the answers.
Dan - I think Dan is the type of person who would so something bad, but only if they don't get caught. I think he regrets cheating on the test because hes really scared about what his dad's going to say and pretending not to know whats happening is going to make things worse because it would be better to tell the truth instead of telling a lie.
Jake - I think Jake has low self-esteam because when a girl sat next to him he got nervous. I think Jake thinks hes not good enough to talk to a girl because when a girl sat next to him he couldn't believe a girl was sitting next to him , and him being helpless that a girls sitting next to him .. he gave her the answers.
I think when everyone gets caught their going to try to tell a lie but there is going to be one person that tells the truth , and thats going to get them in even more trouble because they didn't tell the truth in the first place.
Did Katie snitch?
ReplyDeleteI think the book is interesting because every chapter their is a different characters perspective. I am not sure if I read a book like that before,but you know what they say about how trying new things is good and I am enjoying it.
ReplyDeleteSarah-My first impression on sarah was that she can get things with even trying like how she got the answers for the geography test.
ReplyDeleteKatie-My first impression is that she does not like to cheat and she is very careful ablut doign it and that every second she would think about doing it
Rob-My first impression on him is thatwould do anythign to get the answers even leave his girlfriend.
Dan- My first impression is that he waould do anything to pass his mid-term test by cheating of anythign else.
Jake-My first impression on jake is that he is the kind of person who is very snecky and would do anything for someone else as long as he gets something in return.
My first impression of the book is that it is kind of jumpy and interesting,because they made the book by using different people's perspective from different parts of the book.
ReplyDeleteSarah to me is a person who thinks she all that because of her looks.
Katie is a person who isn't used to cheating or getting in trouble because when she was writing the test she couldn't begin herself to cheat.
Dan is one of those stupid jocks who only care about sports and not much about school and his grades.
Rob is more of a person who does care about school but not alot.He does care about sports but not of those jocks.
Jake to me is a geek who everyone doesn't like and like the book said that all the girls would throw up at the sight of him.Also that all the jocks would bully him and pull pranks on him.
Jake sounds like the loser in the movies, with the "mommas boy" hair cut and the big shiny braces with the ugly dirty shoes, that will do anything to get some good attention, (which explains him giving Sarah the answers.)
ReplyDelete@Mr.Cheney, i don't think Katie snitched, because while she was doing the test she got mixed up with cheat answers so she was wrong so she didn't have last years answer and she isn't apart of it.
ReplyDeleteI think Katie might of snitched because she wanted to save herself and blame it on others
ReplyDeletePrayas i think what you say about the characters is true because:
ReplyDeleteSarah sounds like shes one of those spoiled little brats that are cute and beautiful but are stinkin rich
Rob seems like those little baby that he does the crime but cant do the time because hes scared of his parents.
Katie seems like annoying little girl and that sticks in the past
Jake is straight up loner and just cant get a girl to like him since to me he seems ugly and since i guess he has no freinds he always seems desperate
The book is interesting since that it shows everyone's perspective to add up on how they got caught cheating. It would be very interesting if how they are not trusting each other and a huge fight broke out, causing everyone started being suspicious about what each other are doing and scheming how they are going to rat each other out. But instead they are stalking each other.
ReplyDeleteSarah seems "like" the type of person that doesn't care about how other people feel or what they are saying. She also didn't seem to care about what jake did for her when he gave her the answers for the mid term exam, which is really naive.
Katie is just really the type of person that doesn't want to pass the test this way. She seems like the person that is really honest and wants to have authenticity with her work if she pass.
Ruby is the type of girl that is ignorant to what people say when she is made and only hears what people say and misunderstand what they mean. Because of her ludicrous actions.
Rob is "like" the person that just wants to worries a lot since he doesn't want to get busted.
Sarah: I think sarah is the bigshot girl that is very extra and every other girl wants to be in her crew.
ReplyDeleteKatie: is the girl who thinks why does every boy fall for her she just have a prety face and she is the girl who does not really care about boys and she is really smart and every time she hears about somthing unfair she starts a protest aginst the school.
Rob: I think he is the guy who is cool about doing bad stuff then when he thinks about what he did he thinks about what is going to happen he goes crazy and thinks what did i do and over reacts and talks about police finding out and becoming a number one wanted crimanl.
Jake: He is the guy who always gets bullied since grade one and then the girl of his dreams talks to him so he is willing to do anything for her.Then one day he becoms the hero for them all like spider man he is a geek at school then he becoms the hero without even any one knowing.
Dan: is the guy who is cool about every thing and doesn't panic no matter what happens because he always has a back up plan and he is the guy who gets all the girls and is in the football plays quater back
Katie: she doesnt have the guts to cheat,she pressures herself to cheat.
ReplyDeleteRob: he is layed back, he doesnt know anything about GEO,he is confused.
Ruby: she is kind of negative,she doesnt know what to do, but she angry. Rob: he worried for his father. He doesnt want his father to know about him cheating.
Sarah: she feels stupid,trying to hide the fact that she is sacred.
Dan: acts like he doesnt know what mr.white is talking about,he was happy to see other people introuble with him.
Jake: he is in love(likes)Sarah alot,he is syked about about Sarah talking to him.
sry my post didn't work before.. these were my first impressions
ReplyDeleteSarah- uses her beauty to get whatever she wants and makes ppl give her stuff like her
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Katie- worry's a lot about what might happen and can go wrong
Ruby- really angry and really doesnt know what to do about it
Rob-confused and trying to understand all his mistakes
Dan-acting like he doesn't know anything and hes all innocent like as if he didn't do nothing and he has something hes gonna make up and lie about
Jake- wants to be cool and everyone to like him so he gets the answers from last year and thinks its all going to get better
Jake: I think Jake wants to be cool thats why he does everything the cool kids doo so he is cheating on the test now.
ReplyDeleteBy reading the comments I think im starting to get the flow of the book but what happened so far?
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ReplyDeleteWell from what we read so far, I am guessing we know all the characters in the book. So basically they got answers for the test they are doing, and by accident they did the wrong test and got sent to the office. The test they did was from the year before I believe?
dan seems like the type of person that thinks he cam physic out people by acting dumb so people will leave him alone, because that will be irritating. He only does this if he think he will get in trouble. I'm guessing he vexed the principle before.
ReplyDeleteJake seems like the person that is forgetful since was distracted with helping his girlfriend's sister's engagement party, and forgot to study. He also likes to take a short cut if there is a short notice, the test was a good example he remembers last minute.
@ elpresidente the test answer was actually from jake's sister i think; she likes to file things.
ReplyDeleteThe test answer are from last years test but the test they had recently took has been changed as in the order.
it shows the different perspective of the people that cheated on the test.
Oh I see and now theyve been caught because their test answers clearly show that theyve worked toghther or at least cheated somehow so whats the big mystery?
ReplyDeleteI agree with Janet and Tarundeep's posts and I have another thought about THE CHEATER.
ReplyDeleteI think that the book is hard to follow because I never read a book that every chapter is a disticnt summary of a character's thuoghts. I find the book a little bit complex because as I said I am new to reading books like this. However I find the book a bit interesting because the book is not written in a consistent manner so never know what is going to happen next,so if you a the good reader that Mr.Cheney talked about at the beginning of the year you will be imagining the story in your head as it goes along. I would recommend this book however,I would reccommend it to an oldre group (I would say grade 6 and up).
@ EL Presidente the book is writen in different perspectives so if might me a bit confusing at the begining but once you know who talking its easyer to understand the book.
ReplyDeletethomas i think you are mixing up jake with rob because jake kind of knew that he would never get a beak that is what he said rob was the guy who was begging not to tell on him.
ReplyDelete@abdullahi i agree wiht yopu but the only thing is i have read a book with more then 1 persons perspective but in this book there many so i would also recomand it for a older group of kids grade 6 and up.
ReplyDeleteI guess everyones still on the identifying the characters stage and so zak im lost too so i guess a bunch of kids cheated on a test by using last years andswer because one of the kids said that its the same every year(the test is there mid terms) and so the dude that took the midterm gave them the answers too it so the used those answers and ended up getting caught for it now there in the office and each chapter is each of those students perspective of whats going to happen and how some of them are scared
ReplyDeleteKatie
ReplyDeleteI think that she is not the person to cheat on tests because she was panicking while doing the test. She is probably always honest and doesn't want to get into trouble.
Rob
ReplyDeleteJust like Katie a bit. He is scared to cheat on his test ; doesn't want to get in trouble. I think he does stupid things just to get his way. Just like when he broke up with Katie for Sarah just for answers.
@Thamil so what are all the ties between the characters. From reading the comments it seems that one lad gave everyone of them the answers from his sister is this right.
ReplyDeleteIf so I see how theyre all tied togther. The book sounds extremly interesting, books like these really put you into the head of others so everyone becoems like a main character. By the way is their any one main character in the book upto this point. I wonder with cheating why people go through all the trouble and use all that energy just to cheat when they could do the same and use the same amount of energy to study.
Sarah sounds like some average girl that doesn't care about what Jake really is.She sounds like someone popular,and she might have a history of insufficient marks due to her social status.By having this social status,it might lead her to having a superiority complex of some sort too.
ReplyDeleteStephanie and Abdullahi i agree with you because many of the perspectives get confusing and you have to know who is the character to know them a and yeah I've also read a book before with more then one perspective
ReplyDeletesorry to have come on so late, watching the specialist (true classic)
ReplyDelete@mr. Cheney I am starting to think that Katie sniched, because after all that stress from what she was doing during the exam, maybe she just lost it and confessed, letting out everyone who was doing it, which explains why now sarah is wondering why katie isnt in the principals office with her. i think the teacher just cut her a break, because Katie diddnt really cheat because she diddnt do anything
@EL Presidente
ReplyDeletei don't think there really is one main character because it has many perspectives and different views of each other.And i think people would rather cheat then study because cheating is actually easier and some people just look for easy ways to get things done and over with and sometimes studying is really boring
@ darthinder, thats exactly what i said, and she kind of said it too. She said that now that i dont have to study, i can take care of other things
ReplyDeleteKatie sounds like some mediocre girl,possibly with an inconsistent grade pattern.She becomes desperate enough to get the cheat sheet,but then she panics when it gets down to the final moment? It's like,now the integrity starts to show? It doesn't even deserve to be called integrity,the feeling of revealing a facade because of the fear failing is terrible.If Katie was actually smart,cheating wouldn't be the option,getting help from a teacher would be the real answer.
ReplyDeleteRob sounds like a guy who always fails, is lazy,mediocre and now he’s succeeding by cheating.
ReplyDeleteThis feeling of not being able to be caught by acting nonchalant,''natural'',is completely false.There is no security imminent in this situation (the idea to not get caught).Rob can stay lazy,but he can't stay like this for the rest of his life.At some point,he'll have to get up and make a change.
He could do that,or he could rot the rest of his pathetic fictional existence in a hole,and if he can roll over,he can roll over and die.
@ adam Katie did not want to cheat so mybe she didn't and never got caught so thats why she isn't in the office.
ReplyDelete@Pamela, i agree with you .. if Katie couldn't cheat on the geography mid-term then she is known as the wimp .. or perhaps scared or can not cheat.
ReplyDeleteI think Katie is so scared t cheat because what f she got caught(like the rest of the students) she wouldn't want a call to go home or to be suspended so i think she made the right decision for not being such a great cheater.
I THINK KATIE CONFESSED THATS WHY SHE IS NOT IN TROUBLE!!!
ReplyDelete@Adam Also,she sounds a bit cliche.In all the movies,there's always that girl that the other girls ''envy''.It's a bit funny seeing the perspective of the girl that's never focused on but is seen as ''popular'' in media.
ReplyDeleteSarah : I think Sarah of one of those typical girly girls that have the looks and get "guys" attraction by just smiling and giving them a hint to show that they are interested in them .. and she could get ANYTHING out of the guy, example the geography answers and maybe more as the book will go on.
ReplyDelete@Ben-G , maybe when the test came she decided not to cheat ?
ReplyDelete@daethinder, is not that they "envy" then, that would be a little wired. its more like that people hate her and always try to prank her etc king of like girls on jakes "level" that hate sarah cause of her popularity. thats how it usually is in the movies.
ReplyDelete@Adam, i dis-agree with you because Katie was panicking during the mid-term exam that she didn't fully memorize the cheats potentially that she epically forgot it, so she didn't get the last year exams cheats, but yet wrote different answers.
ReplyDelete@nida, but diddnt all ready been givin the test?
ReplyDeletei dont think that katie snitched because it said that she had decided to mixed up her answers, and if she did snitched she would probably be question on how she found out and she would either lie or tell the truth, that she had the answers too. But katie doest seem like the kind of girl who would lie, like a goody goody.
ReplyDeleteKatie : She is a very naughty girl, she wants to get everything she wants but doesn't succeed .. she is one of those type of girls were she gives other girls dirty looks and always starts drama, and spreads a lot of fake rumors.
ReplyDelete@Ben-G , in the book it said that she was picking questions randomly so she doesn't know the order of the song she made .. i think.
ReplyDeleteRob : I think Rob as one of those jocks/players. Jock = He is smart but loves to play spots etc, and Player because he moved on from dumping his girlfriend Katie to dating Sarah to get the answer for the mid-term Geography exams ..and i think now he will regret everything he does.
ReplyDelete@Niida, yeah that is what happened, Katie forgot the song and the rhythm she made to help study for the answers and when it came to the mid-term exams she totally lost her mind and she forgot everything, so she just put random answers..
ReplyDeleteRuby sounds similar to Katie,but a bit more unsophisticated.Her use of ''like'' is so massive,that her vocabulary that could be so vast is not.Her outrageously miniscule taste in the art of English seems distasteful.
ReplyDeleteShe seems,confused,scared,sad and angry.Without Rob,she could feel sad that she doesn't get to spend time with him.
Dan : I think Dan is one of those boys that plays and acts dumb (not going to mention any names but cough cough Tamil) that when they get caught he acts and plays dumb and ask all these question example, is that my test, did i really cheat, what did i do. and He himself Dan knows all the answer but trys to fool the teacher but i'm pretty sure that the teacher know that he had cheat.
ReplyDelete@talwinder, it wasnt rob who dumped katie, katie wasnt even dumped it was ruby who got dumped by danny, and he didnt dump her, he just wanted the answers.
ReplyDelete@ adam i agree with talwinder becauase she didn't want to cheat so she wrote diffrent answers.
ReplyDeleteJake : I think Jake as a lazy person, cheater, doesn't like to study, and do anything for the cheat/answers, and when Jake gets a hold of the answer he will try to impress his friends or girls and give them the answers so they could be a bit close, just like what happened with Jake and Sarah.
ReplyDelete@Bailee, oh i got confused because that is what i got told by Cheney ..
ReplyDeleteDan knows why he is in trouble,but now he needs to start acting like he didn’t cheat.He needs to act like it is the most ridiculous thing in the world.He sounds pathetic,like the rest of them.
ReplyDeleteHe knows the problem,but he just makes it worse.He's useless in this kind of situation.They increase the risk of getting caught by decreasing the chance of being snitched on.Which is like the same thing.
@Talwinder , remember the song .. the "cat boy cat boy" stuff ? Katie remembered the song but she didn't think it was right to cheat therefore she picked random questions and started answering them instead of going through the questions in order.
ReplyDelete@Mentally Superior in the Dark Arts of Negativity and Criticism,Artistically Overpowering,Imperial Overlord of the Entire Universe and beyond,Darthinder, I think Dan as put him as this position where right now he is panicking and pleading the principal not to give a call home etc.
ReplyDelete@Mentally Superior in the Dark Arts of Negativity and Criticism,Artistically Overpowering,Imperial Overlord of the Entire Universe and beyond,Darthinder , do you dislike Dan the most out of all the characters we know about so far ?
ReplyDelete@Niida, no Katie was the one when she was confused during the test she panicking because she forgot the song, or was the Sarah ? I am really confused about this book "Cheat"
ReplyDelete@Talwinder , I think it was Sarah who forgot the song .. the book is confusing because of the different perspectives in every chapter.
ReplyDelete@Mentally Superior in the Dark Arts of Negativity and Criticism,Artistically Overpowering,Imperial Overlord of the Entire Universe and beyond,Darthinder, i think Dan is the most ridiculous and the most pathetic one because is playing dumb with the principal and that may lead him to more trouble and thats not a good sign because im pretty sure every child doesn't want a call home saying that your kid was caught cheating etc.
ReplyDeletenobody forgot a song talwinder, katie was just to much of a goody goody to cheat so she did the questions in a different order
ReplyDelete@Niida, yeah because at first the chapter was about them, i never knew each chapter was their perspective, and saying what they are thinking inside themselves.
ReplyDelete@Bailee , do you think Katie would snitch ? or do you think shes a good person but she did the wrong thing by cheating ?
ReplyDelete@Bailee, are you sure, because i think im just going to ask Cheney to tell me the character again .. because this is very confusing for me ..
ReplyDeleteJake sounds like the average ‘guy’.He doesn’t sound very confident.He uses the cheat sheet as a way to get with Sarah;Pathetic.I think he'll be an important character in this story.Maybe he'll attain a fake friendship with Sarah,impressing her with cheat sheets and other (in the end) meaningless signs of affection.
ReplyDelete@Talwinder & Bailee , i agree with Bailee , i don't think anybody forgot the song .. Katie mixed up the questions so she wouldn't need to cheat.
ReplyDelete@Niida, Katie didn't cheat she had the song but she didn't want to cheat because she is a "too scared" or perhaps you can "too nerdy" to do it and get caught and get in big trouble.
ReplyDeleteI think katie didnt cheat because she was the one questioning wether or not to cheat during the mid-term exam.
ReplyDelete@Mentally Superior in the Dark Arts of Negativity and Criticism,Artistically Overpowering,Imperial Overlord of the Entire Universe and beyond,Darthinder , do you think Jake should forget about Sarah so he doesn't need to make cheat sheets for her and her friends ?
ReplyDelete@Stephanie, i agree with you, but do you think Katie snitched, or do you think Katie will be the "hero" of the book and save there lives from a call to there parents?
ReplyDelete@Talwinder He's probably in a position even worse than that.You heard how he'd give an organ (as an expression) to show how desperate he was.In the end,I really think they'll get in trouble,get a punishment and they'll remember it for the rest of their education.
ReplyDelete@nida, i dont think katie would cheat because like i said she seems like the goody goody type, and i dont think she would snitch because she would probably be asked how she knows that they all cheated, and since i see her as a goody goody she wouldnt be able to lie.
ReplyDelete@talwinder, im pretty sure that it was dan and ruby going out because ruby was the girl who was all like....and like....and like
@Talwinder , that's what i said -.- , Katie didn't wanna cheat so at the last minute she didn't , she decided to switch the questions, and her doing that helped her not get in trouble.
ReplyDelete@Mentally Superior in the Dark Arts of Negativity and Criticism,Artistically Overpowering,Imperial Overlord of the Entire Universe and beyond,Darthinder, yes i agree, but do you think Katie will be the hero of the book and let them off the "hook" and tell an excuse to get them trouble free.
ReplyDelete@Bailee, yeah i remember when Cheney was saying that and yeah now i know that Dan and Ruby going out, i had a mis-understanding, a big one.
ReplyDelete@Bailee , i agree .. she seems like a goody goody , therefore she didn't cheat .. and it seems like shes a good friend too , so i don't think shes going to snitch.
ReplyDelete@Niida, oh, now i get it because before i thought that she forgot the song so she wrote random answers ..
ReplyDeletesorry i couldn't post before my computer isn't working well.
ReplyDeleteMy first impressions of this book, it's like the author is a grade 8 student with a great imagination. but it is kind of confusing since there are many different perspectives from different people.
Sarah: my first impression on her would be she acts smart but she is not really and how she thinks she is the best because she get attention and all.she seems like a showoff person.
Katie : she sounds like a girl who is smart but is really lazy.
rob : first impression on him would be he likes to think about him the most ; so selfish.
Dan: seems like a person who would do anything wrong without getting into trouble and he sounds like he is really scared of his father.he shows like he is tough but not really and likes to act cool.
Jake:he sounds like a person who gets distracted easily.and he tries to get attention but fails and end up getting caught in cheating.
@Stephanie , Katie ended up picking random questions and started answering them so the song wouldn't help her and she didn't end up cheating like that.
ReplyDeletei agree nida katie does seem like a good frend, and its pretty obvious that she didnt cheat.
ReplyDelete@Heli , do you think when the author was writing a book they were writing it from a grade 8 students perspective ?
ReplyDelete@Nida I hate Dan's fictional guts! His character is so expectable.The character doesn't seem like an interesting one.All his moves are predictable.Acting like not knowing anything? I've seen it happen so many times with students here at this school.
ReplyDelete@Nida Of course Jake could do that,but what kind of boy would actually stop giving cheat sheets and stop being ''with'' a ''popular'' girl? It's easy to say something can be done,but in real life:What boy would say no to this Sarah situation?
ReplyDelete@ nida
ReplyDeleteya,that what's I said the author was writing the story from grade 8 students perspective because most of the characters are grade 8s.and also in the story the different perspectives are from the grade 8 students.
@Mentally Superior in the Dark Arts of Negativity and Criticism,Artistically Overpowering,Imperial Overlord of the Entire Universe and beyond,Darthinder , do you think Dan tries to act cool but he isn't ? xD
ReplyDelete@stephanie i agree with you and i don't really think Katie snitched but maybe she just snitched up her answers because she was randomly doing them and she didn't even remember it all anywayz,the teacher probaly compared the answers then relized some are alike (as last years) and called the people with the same answers
ReplyDeletei find the book pretty intresting, because we r all grade 8s imagine if this was happening with us. Its pretty amazing how this could actually happen in our class
ReplyDelete@Heli , do you think the author did a good job on how she wrote from grade 8 students' perspectives?
ReplyDeletehey bailee...............we're reading the book too :P
ReplyDelete@talwinder at this point in the book in not sure i think that it could go either way but i do think that she didnt snitch i think she was to scared to cheat so she answered the questions in a way that she could not cheat
ReplyDelete@jan101, i was saying more towards the grade 8s for that comment, it was pretty obvious
ReplyDelete@ nida
ReplyDeletei think the author is doing a nice job up till now and i hope the ending is not so officious. and only if we knew better when, which person is telling us their part of the story from their perspective.
what do you think?could she would have made is better?
@Mentally Superior in the Dark Arts of Negativity and Criticism,Artistically Overpowering,Imperial Overlord of the Entire Universe and beyond,Darthinder , you make a good point. Do you think even if Jake finds out Sarah is "using" him, would he still be friends with her and give her sheets ? I think so.
ReplyDelete@niida, i agree, jake would probably still be frends with sarah because he wants to be more than just the geek.
ReplyDelete@Stephanie, Katie was to scared to cheat i agree but making prediction would help to make the book more suspenseful tomorrow, so what do you predict will happen?
ReplyDelete@Heli , i agree .. the story would have been better if it would be easier if we knew who was talking from who's perspective because we started reading the book yesterday i think and people are already confused about it :P , I think the author could have made it better by making the story more clearer, I think this is the type of the book that you would need to re-read some of the parts because of how confusing it is.
ReplyDelete@heli thats what most authors try to do they try to leave clues while there writing but try to make the ending something that the reader wont figure out or an ending that fits where the book is at.Just like in rebound the endind was kinda ovious but it fit the book bu david not being able to walk again.
ReplyDelete@ nida and bailee
ReplyDeletei disagree with you guys ;if you were jake would you like it if someone told you that a friend of your, they actually used you.and their are not friends, i don't think Jake will be friends with Sarah if it was like Sarah used him and he found out.
@Bailee , do people see Jake as a geek ? I think people see him more as a loser then a geek, or Jake may see himself as a geek or loser , because what we read from his perspective .. he said how he couldn't believe a girl was sitting next to him , and a girl like Sarah sitting next to him got him even more happy.
ReplyDelete@Nida He doesn't try to act cool,but I know he needs to keep his cool.The second that there's sweat,voice cracking or some uneasy energy,the principal will know it is a lie.Think about how many delinquents that principal has dealt with.
ReplyDeleteFrom a school like these characters are in,many students seem to be pathetic.If this is some school history,like a pattern,then the principal should recognize it right away and fail all the students.
@ Stephanie
ReplyDeletesome authors do that leave clues and it leads to the ending which we can guess and be correct.
but what i meant was that the ending they are going to get in trouble and get caught but have another ending to the story not just that.
@talwinder umm ok i think that katie will get called to the office but not for cheating but for the fact that the principal is hopeing she will tell him/her(i dont remember who the principal is)who gave the answers to the class.I also think that while katie is there she will panice and spill everything she knows or keep her cool and only give information that is only slightly helpful.
ReplyDelete@Heli , it depends on the person Jake is , so far we only know a few pages about him , there's a lot more of us to learn about his character .. so we can't say anything exact right now. A lot of things could happen with Jake and Sarah , maybe a friend of Jake tells him that Sarahs using him but Jake doesn't believe them , so there's a lot that can happen , but we don't know anything that we can say for sure.
ReplyDelete@Stephanie, i agree with your prediction, i agree with it to because it is very likely that would happen, i was thinking the same thing too. =)
ReplyDelete@Mentally Superior in the Dark Arts of Negativity and Criticism,Artistically Overpowering,Imperial Overlord of the Entire Universe and beyond,Darthinder , in a way Dan does try to act cool , and i agree with you .. if he doesn't stop acting really nervous the principal would figure out he's telling a lie. And Dan seems like a kid that acts tough in front of his friends but hes scared to act like that in front of his parents , for example ; when the principal was saying he was going to call his dad Dan got really scared.
ReplyDelete@ gurinder what makes you think that this has happened so much at that school, it doesn't go into much detail about that
ReplyDelete@ heli or the ending could just be what they were thinking about if they cheated, i think i read that in a book.
@ nida i agree with you he is a bigshot to gain his respect infront of the other boys he will do anything to look like the strongest guy.
ReplyDelete@Thomas This is inferred.From the background knowledge I have about how students act when they get caught in the midst of inappropriate methods in the process of being used,and my expectations of an experienced principal,I believe I can create a hypothesis.This hypothesis being the idea that the students are all pathetic and the principal has dealt with this before.
ReplyDeleteThen again,they might be off the hook...
@ gurinder about the old post in the sarah position, the only way some one would not do that is if they aren't interested.
ReplyDelete@Nida Dan seems to act like this: ''If you show your enemies that you are weak,then you will lose''.If Dan has no signs of fear,the principal might be fooled into thinking that this student is telling the truth (even though he's not!).
ReplyDeleteWe don't know if Dan has a history of being in the principals office.How many times has he got caught cheating,vandalizing or anything against the code of conduct?
@Thomas That question was a rhetorical one.From Sarah's perspective,soon enough she will discover Jake's real purpose about sharing the answers.She might've realized the moment Jake tried to ''help'' her by introducing a cheating method.If she didn't,she might not realize until the end;When this sickening catastrophe is resolved.
ReplyDelete@Usman and Niida, what you guys are talking about leads to reputation, everyone wants to be at the top, but not possible, so you gotta maintain that and be at the medium level.
ReplyDeleteI don't see how the students are all pathetic one of them didn't cheat, from what i think it is just the type of students like Dan for an example that is pathetic as an example, acting dumb is not believable, he could have at least put up a better performance, or like jake i think who's just thinking how screwed he is when his dad finds out he cheated on his test, and got caught. If Jake is able to keep it cool then Dan should be able to do it with no sweat, as long as he doesn't get to anxious if principle chen believes his act.
ReplyDelete@Nida i agree with you because we really don't know a lot about each character but we can make predictions about how they are and what they might do
ReplyDeleteThe story just began, there is so much more to, so many scenarios, and predictions, like 90% is going to wrong, but at least you are engaged in the book and looking forward to what is going to happen in the next time we read the novel again.
ReplyDelete@Usman , i agree .. it seems like he would do anything for the guys to think he is cool , but when they said they were going to call his parents he got really scared , showing he isn't as tough as he says he is.
ReplyDelete@sharpshooter i agree with you Jake should have really though about this before and now hes really scared and worried what his dad his going to think and what will happen to him and for dan i think acting dumb isn't really going to him or maybe it even might
ReplyDelete@sharpshooter1948, if you think as Jake, and Dan as pathetic, what do you think of Rob ?
ReplyDelete@ gurinder rhetorical question or not i'm just stating what i think about that situation, even though that is possible to happen.
ReplyDeleteIf she does soon find out about the real reason for him helping her she would just use him to her advantage. Just think of it this way someone helped you with something and can do much more, wouldn't you abuse that fact by manipulating them into thinking that the both of you can make it easier for that task. Or you strike a deal if you are the bargaining type just in case they don't believe you.
@Mentally Superior in the Dark Arts of Negativity and Criticism,Artistically Overpowering,Imperial Overlord of the Entire Universe and beyond,Darthinder , good point. I have a feeling Dan isn't going to be able to handle being in the principals office and he may just keep on being nervous. There's still a lot more to learn about Dan's character.
ReplyDelete@ talwinder that depends my answer will be decided by his action in the up coming events.
ReplyDelete@ nida i agree with you if he went so far he should have justsaid why what did i do when they threatend to call his parents
ReplyDelete@Niida, i agree with you, but Jake and Rob are really scared and very nervous at this point they are very desperate to not get in trouble, remember when he said "he would give his organ just please don't cal my parents."
ReplyDelete@Talwinder , i agree .. it seems Dan just wants a "cool" reputation and he may do anything to get it. It seems like Dan doesn't wanna stay at "medium" level , it seems like he wants everyone to respect him and for everyone to think hes cool.
ReplyDelete@sharpshooter1948, i am just asking of your opinion of Rob at the moment .. it could definitely will be answer in the future but i want to know you thought and your feeling about Rob, do you think him as of pathetic person to, or do you think he has a different personality different from Jake and Dan.
ReplyDelete@Niida, i don't Dan is cool at the point of the book, because he is acting like a jerk pretending like what is going on and what is not going on, playing the stupidity game .. that isn't cool, it just plain lame.
ReplyDelete@ usman he doesn't seem like a big shot right now considering the situation he is i.
ReplyDelete@Janat , i agree .. we don't know much about the characters , but we still need to predict whats going to happen next , it helps the story be interesting :P .. and for sure we cant say what each persons characters exactly like , because we can't know their actually like in a few pages.
ReplyDelete@Usman , i agree .. he shouldn't have cheated if he couldn't handle the consequences of getting caught.
ReplyDelete@ talwinder i really don't have anything to say so i'll just leave in the alright he's not pathetic or a big show off he's just nothing.
ReplyDelete@ Niida i think dan's going to have a break down then when he sees that all the guys are looking at him he will try to go back to normal.
ReplyDelete@Talwinder , i agree .. and like i said to Usman , they shouldn't have cheated if they couldn't handle the consequences of getting caught.
ReplyDelete@ nida he probably wanted an easy a since he is obviously the type of person that when given the answer not knowing if it is right or not he takes them instead of studying.
ReplyDelete@Talwinder , i agree .. Dan isn't cool at this point of the book , but i think he is trying to be , and i agree .. playing stupid isn't going to get him anywhere.
ReplyDelete@Usman , i agree .. i think he may even start crying when the principal calls his parents :P , and i think Dan's going to try to be cool even after he has a breakdown , but i think it won't be as easy to become "cool" after that.
ReplyDelete@ usman what do you mean by all the guys will look down on him? as in you cheated but you got caught, you ain't that good, cheat only when you know how to cheat.
ReplyDelete@Sharpshooter , he seems like the guy that would do anything to get out of studying , even if it means cheating .. and getting an easy A seems perfect to everyone , but it seems like he doesn't like working hard to get his A's.
ReplyDelete@ nida not crying more like begging crying then end up in a fetal position or just clamp on to the principle's leg.
ReplyDelete@Niida, yeah playing stupid for Dan isn't going to get him out of trouble, weather or not he still going to get in trouble, so no need to act "extra"
ReplyDelete@ nida that's what i mean, when i said that he would just take the answers then actually studying
ReplyDelete@ thomas since the guy is a big shot he would not whan't to lose his rep infront of the other boys.
ReplyDelete@Sharpshooter , LOOL .. i think what his next actions would be according to his dad's reaction when he hears about his son cheating.
ReplyDelete@Talwinder , he thinks him playing stupid is going to get him out of trouble , but that isn't going to work and he should know that .. and he may be acting "extra" it depends on how far he goes with acting "stupid".
ReplyDelete@Niida, i agree but Dan thinking playing extra is going to get him out of trouble, that is so off, i think that may cause him to more trouble.
ReplyDelete@Talwinder , i agree .. i think him acting like he doesn't know whats going can make things even worse.
ReplyDelete@Niida I agree Dan acts extra when he's in trouble because he thinks he can get away from trouble.
ReplyDelete@Talwinder I agree it'll just get him into more trouble because he's making more and more lies to cover up one lie. I think he shouldn't act like he doesn't know nothing because everyone knows he was apart of it and there is no point for lieing.
ReplyDeleteI agree with nida at least put on a convincing act acting like you don't know what is going on he is already deep in the bowels of trouble, now he is just sinking deeper in, not drowning. that happened when he was cheating.
ReplyDeleteJake... I think people see him more as a loser then a geek because what we read from his perspective, he said how he couldn't believe Sarah was sitting next to him and that got him happy. He was excited that a girl sat beside him for once.
ReplyDeleteI agree with (Jan 101)because we don't know much about the characters, but we still need to predict whats going to happen next because it helps the story get interesting and the reader wanting to read on....
ReplyDelete@Usman I agree, I think he may even start crying when the principal calls his parents, and I think Dan's trying to be cool even after he has a breakdown. Dan should just stop pretending that he doesn't know anything the principal is talking about. It's funny how the book's name is The Cheat, and the story started out as a bunch of kids who cheat.
ReplyDelete@Sharpshooter he seems like the guy that would do anything to get out of studying. He want's to just pass and not study for anything. Getting an A is a hard thing so all of them just wanted to take the easy way out and cheat.
ReplyDelete@ prayas i agree with you because he said that not somany people in the school like him and run away from him so that is why he probobly offerd the answers.
ReplyDeleteI think Jake should forget about Sarah so he didn't need to make cheat sheets for her and her friends...
ReplyDeleteI think Rob might be under pressure and feel guilty for commiting the cheating that he might tell who started with the cheat sheets. So he might snitch but maybe not because he's right now thinking about himself, how he doesn't want to get in trouble and get his parents to know what happened. So it's 50/50. Same with Katie. She too is 50/50.
@Thomas I do believe I am entitled to call them pathetic.Cheating? How desperate do you have to be to stoop to such a low level!? (Rhetorical!)
ReplyDeleteIt's completely unfair to all the students that try to make it through school by studying.These fictional students must of been studying for countless hours so they can answer correctly.
@Thomas But this doesn't mean that if you keep studying and ''working hard'' you will succeed.It's never guaranteed,but studying always gives you more potential,and a better chance at succeeding.
ReplyDeleteWhen you step down to such a low level,lower than the dirt and worms;there you will find cheaters. By accepting to cheat,you tell yourself that you are incapable of succeeding,so you must cheat.If you think that this would be a ''one time thing'',it is completely false.After cheating once,you'll keep cheating until you're caught.
Then you have to decide:Turn your education into the right direction and have bright future,or keep trying to cheat and live a miserable existence.
@ Heli I agree,the perspectives of grade 8s are very realistic.I wonder If the author used his/her experiences at school to form the book,or an interview.Starting of the book was confusing for me,because I didn't understand the format of the book,which is moving along the story,while the book keeps switching the characters that speak (perspective and what they think).
ReplyDelete@Heli There is no real example of Katie being lazy.When she was struggling to pick up the pencil,it was because her conscious was telling her not to.All of a sudden,she felt ''integrity'' as a result of being terrified by the event of getting caught.What it really was,was that Katie was caving in.
ReplyDeleteBut of course,Katie caving in doesn't mean that she told the truth about the cheat sheet.Sarah is believed to be some voluptuous woman that Jake is mesmerized by.Could Sarah have some other admirers? Stalkers,maybe? Those kids might want to rat out Jake so they can have Sarah for themselves.The story is from the perspectives of the kids,but we don't know what's happening around them.There could be eavesdroppers everywhere!
ReplyDelete@Heli About Sarah,was she actually thinking of all those ideas to save the world? Saving the world from poverty and war,etc. Was she thinking sarcastically in her head or did she really mean it?
ReplyDeleteIf Sarah actually means all those goals she might have about saving the world,then that is one interesting character! The intention to save humans by taking a personal advantage to get closer to a goal.Like doing something bad so you can do something good.
ReplyDeleteThen again,she could be lying and Sarah's some scum bag
@Jan By calling previous participants,It wouldn't make a difference.The whole exam is the ''fill in a circle'' routine.It can't be used as evidence of cheating.But,if it was a written exam,then it could be used as evidence.
ReplyDelete@Jan Although style of writing might not be evident,and participants from previous years can't make a change,the naming can.The older sister's name was written on the exam,along with the date and what mark she might've got.If the sister went to the school the previous year,the Principal might recognize her work and then expel all the cheaters,call their parents and place a severe punishment.
ReplyDelete@Brown Kid Jake is pathetic! He knows that it was just a coincidence but he makes himself believe,like a false hope that some day Sarah will fall in love with him,or some other crazy ending.
ReplyDelete@Brown Kid Why does Jake continue to think like this? Maybe this is why he is classified as a ''loser''.He knows what his problems are,but he doesn't do anything about it.He thinks that,if he cheats that Sarah will become more than an acquaintance with him.All he really is,is a tool.Once Sarah doesn't need help anymore,she can throw it away;like Jake's heart.
ReplyDelete@Brown Kid Jake will never forget Sarah,because he believes that she will be with him if he gives her the cheat sheets.Jake is the whole reason the book exists,but Jake has weak character traits.Being seduced by a classmate of the opposite gender? How many times have we seen that in cartoons?
ReplyDelete@Brown Kid I think Rob and Katie are at this ''50/50'' thing because they thing that they need to look natural when they are at risk of being caught.When they were discussing the cheat sheet,there could've been people around that were over hearing.I agree that there's pressure on Rob,and that Parents are always a fear when you get in trouble.I wonder what the parents would do if they actually come...
ReplyDelete@Talwinder I agree,Sarah does sound a little manipulative.I don't think it'd be a strong enough manipulation to get out of the principal's office,unless she's a good actor.We saw the part where she was making an ugly crane analogy,but maybe she can act!
ReplyDelete@Brown Kid Katie does sound fragile.She looks like she would be the one to cave in first,but I don't think it is that.An anonymous student must've tipped off to another student or teacher and that's how the principal knows.It could've been a janitor,a school yard teacher or maybe a passer by.
ReplyDelete@Brown Kid Thinking That Katie would cave in sounds too easy.Would the author really write something so easy to understand? There needs to be a plot twist,something completely brand new!
ReplyDeleteIf it can't have something surprising,something convoluted and out of the blue,it's really not worth reading.Because in reality, you can't predict everything to happen.The backgrounds of these characters,they could have traits that would make one of them cave in.One that seems like the strongest character.
@Usman Sarah sounded almost humble.She didn't sound very pretentious,nor very self conscious.She had her goals in mind,and she knows what she wants to do.She knows,but then she keeps cheating.Sarah's a pathetic Scum Bag...
ReplyDelete@Vanessa I agree,Katie is strong enough to get the opportunity to do something,but not strong enough to actually do it.For example,when we were going to promote the bully awareness cause.We had enough initiative to think about how to promote it,but then when it came to the end to actually do something,everyone pulled back and ignored it.
ReplyDelete@Jan I think ruby needs to find what her priorities are,and then solve them.Her ''special friend'' left her and now she's alone.She is alone and confused.She needs to find out what she wants to do,what her goals are,and then put social activities after that.
ReplyDelete@Bailee I agree,It does show all the things that grade 8's do.It's realistic,I've seen all these scenarios happen before.It's nice to read about the perspectives of the students.I only get to spectate from a distance,but to actually ''know'' what it might feel like to be them is amusing.But not just amusing,but it's telling.It tells us about our own selves;how we actually are.
ReplyDelete@Tarundeep I wouldn't say she's a snob.Her goals are a bit too high,but there's no actual evidence of her acting pretentious.She is very aware though.She knows what's going on around her,and she'll do what she has to do.
ReplyDeletemy impression of the book to be honest is that it is boring,it is not that interesting to me.
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