The book is extremely realistic.All the character traits that the characters have;I've seen them before.Several times in fact.For example,Dan.He did study the cheated answers,and then keeps trying to pretend that nothing happens.In school,people bully and attack others and a principal catches them.They start to act like nothing happens,and then it just makes their punishment all the more worse.
Yes,they do think this way.They go into a breakdown,they just give up on telling lies because it's too much pressure.In their mind,they realize that resistance is futile.For example,Rob. He realizes his mistake and now he has to worry about his dad punishing him.
The most realistic character I think is the mother.All those types of punishments...I've heard them all before! They act calm and civilized to show that they've raised their children properly,and then when they get home they turn into monsters! I've seen it happen before when parents get a bad review by the teachers.At the interview,the parents are all calm and they take in the negative things and sometimes dart back.Then,on the car ride home they will rip out all these punishments and figuratively shackle you to your bedroom.
The book is pretty realistic and to tie this in with something weve done the mom black mailing the principal because of her contributes to the school is ineqaulity if another child in that situation with a mother who hadnt done all that in terms of monetary fundraising for the school wouldve got off in much more trouble. Thats another thing parents who fundraise a whole lot can do.
This book is very realistic it can related to most of the kid around the globe to there life in connection, when they get caught the principal will do anything to make the child learn there lesson and suffer. Even there personality is realistic the way Ruby says always "like" teen around the world do that to ..
@El Presidente It's like an advantage of systemic racism.If you're rich,you can get into less trouble! If this irrelevant comment of fund-raising is used,and accepted,it means that the principal is being bribed or is corrupt.
I don't think think children outside of office really think about cheating or getting caught, every children dream is cheating and getting away with it by passing and the teachers not realizing, but when it comes to high school teachers taking cheating to a whole new level by giving them consequences etc, in middle school teacher just make the child suffer and learn there lesson but in high school they give a call home and make the child do extra work.
I thik rob is the most realistic character because he is like panicking that his parent are going to find out if i was in rons postion i would be freaking out like that aswell but danny i think he was always a bad kid so thats why mybe he wasn't that worried about getting caught and his mom she didn't really care cause she said wait untill my oppoint is he is really spoiled
@Talwinder I agree,that's another very realistic character in the book.Teenagers that have obtained such a diminutive vocabulary,like Ruby are hysterical! And if they don't say like,they might say ''um''.
i think the book is realistic and most of the characters too but not really Ruby nobody really uses "like" in every or every second sentence unless any one actually knows some who does that and im just wondering , did 3 of them fail the mid term test and have to do it again or is it going to be the same thing??
i think the book is so realistic from the part that these people cheat to Rob who keeps saying like. these things happen because of the underdevelopment of the teenage mind. Either that or their brains are like sponges, once squished the information is out of their heads
@Usman Panicking,everyone goes through that.It's almost like every character is realistic! I think everyone who's been in trouble before has felt this way before;scared of what their parents might do...Or wouldn't do.
I think this book is very realistic as though it was a real situation taken out of ones memory and written down. This type off stuff really deos happen reminds me of the time i was in french class in grade 6 a boy cheated on his test the teacher caught him and it was the day of parent teacher interviews and his parents had set up a appointment with the french teacher. The french teacher riped his page in front of the class and told him he had a 0, he wasnt aloud to do redo the test. I think the most realistic character is Dan or Rob which ever one them who got grounded and was shouted at. I think this because he wasthe one who atually got a phone call home and was grounded which is realistic. aI wonder if Sarah and the other guy got in any trouble?
I think the book is pretty realistic because if someone were to come up to you and tell you that they had the answers to a test, you would obviously take it. Then obviously you would get caught in the end because the teacher will find out somehow. This probably happens frequently in our world because not a lot of people study for tests.
I think the book is realistic in the way things happen like the students sitting outside the office and each of them being called into the office and asked questions. But the characters seem very stereotyped like the girl who says like all the time (I forgot her name).
I think the students outside the office may think this way because they are thinking of different things to say to the principal so they can get in the least trouble. They are also thinking about why they decided to cheat. I think that is what would be going through someones head if they were in trouble. But I also think that if you were in trouble outside the office, you might be thinking about what your parents are going to say and what your punishment might be.
I think the most realistic character is Rob because he seems like the typical kid who's really upset and doesn't understand why he decided to cheat. He's really upset because of that and I can see this happening to someone in real life.
I predict that Sarah will crack very soon and snitch on Jake because she doesn't want to take the heat and I think as for now shes not snitching on Jake because Sarah wants to use Jakes answers in the future or she may actually have feeling for him.
The book seems very realistic because maybe some people could relate to the book , and its really realistic because this type of situation can happen in any grade and it probably already happened .. therefore the situation that everyone is in right now and whatever they are feeling seem to be realistic, and i think that a lot of kids can relate to the things that are happening in the school.
I think the book is Fairly realistic considering all the things that are going on in these five people's lives are alike any five North American 8th Graders lives are or will be. For example, cheating is obviously one of the issues in our schools, and the way that Dan, Rob and Sarah went about cheating is not quite the way I'd go, but it's pretty Realistic, like it's just an email, not an arrow shot from halfway across a city with the cheats attached to it landing right in front of you, that is pure fantasy, if not very, very lucky. Also that there are other things going on in their lives at the same time, like for example, Dan and Ruby were apparently dating, and then apparently, Ruby thought that since Sarah and Dan were "studying" together, That made them a couple, making Ruby angry because he left her for someone else. That is very common in everyday middle school life. Just by the way the students act, I can tell that the author actually understands how we teenagers act(Except for Ruby, I think she's too much of a teenager). I think that the character of Dan is a perfect example of how people who oft get in trouble react to these type of situations, dealing with the Principal, dealing with a teacher, it all becomes a norm. Dan acts all proud and happy because he feels accomplished. Obviously we're not too far in the book, but we have a sense of the characters' personalities. So he, in my biased opinion, is the most realistic character
I think the book is kind of realistic cause yesterday some of my friends were caught ditching and the new principle let them off the hook cause they haven't done it before and cause she was a new Principle. They were accusing each other for being caught. The most realistic character of them is Ruby cause people often wonder whats going on in their and the often look through the windows or snoop through doors and they often tell them your so stupid to do that.
@Jan I believe they were tipped off by an eavesdropper,or one of the cheaters caved in.A teacher gave the evidence to the principal.It might not be here,but in high schools;there's those people that are always talking too fast and too much.
This book so far is kind of getting interesting because with every chapter comes a different character from the story. It's interesting reading through every characters eyes and perspective. Yes students outside the office think this way because when any student gets called to the office without them telling why they are called down, the firwst thing that comes in their mind is that they are in trouble or getting a phone call home for doing something the student doesn't know. That's just how it is. I think the most realistic character is Rob because everyone thinks when they get into trouble the first thing that would come into t he students mind is dont tell my parents because they dont want to get into trouble.
@Mentally Superior in the Dark Arts of Negativity and Criticism,Artistically Overpowering,Imperial Overlord of the Entire Universe and beyond,Darthinder, i agree teens don't have the greatest vocabulary, they always add different words and it doesn't make sense, and then you get the hang of it when you hang out with them a lot.
Its their faults though for getting themselves into this trouble but I feel if these characters were real than they would have not learned their lesson and would cheat in the future but for now their innocent till proven guilty.
the most realistic character so far looks to be Katie. When katie was doing the exam she was freaking out if she would get caught. i would probably do the same thing, because i know that feeling you get when you are doing something that you are not supposed to, and if you get caught, you would get in really big trouble, so i can only amagine what she was going through.
i agree with zak when sharh finds out that she is going to get in trouble she will find the easyest out and that is blaming it on jake but she still won't get out since she accephted the answers her self.
Yes I think students outside the office are panicking or what ever because they don't know whats going on in the room and what their saying. If I were in this situation and i was outside the office waiting, i would be panicking because they could be telling lies and telling the principal ( or whoever is in the room with them) that it was my idea.
@Talwinder It happens too much.Teens are abandoning proper use of language and now using more and more inappropriate and extremely obscene,absurd choice of language.
Teens enjoy slang more than the fine art that is English... just because it's easier
The book is realistic because teens actually act this way because they keep saying "like" and they also cheat in school,i think some students do becuase they would go to their friends then they would act like they dont care,but actually whats running through their mind is that their scraed of what might happen to them.(trust me i felt like that before.)
Students outside the office don't always think this way because I think for some theirs an air of code between the perpetrators but after sometime I think especially between those who are not that close they will think about starting to turn on each other just as Dan had to save his own self.
I think it depends on what kind of character the person has , but i think everyone who was sitting outside the office thought about telling a lie to get them out of trouble but only some people would go through with the lie and some people would tell the truth.
@Plan B en-G, i agree with you, Katie seems like a realistic character to because she was freaking out during the mid-term exams for geography and more than 50% of students always get nervous during an exam or test .. etc.
@Mentally Superior in the Dark Arts of Negativity and Criticism,Artistically Overpowering,Imperial Overlord of the Entire Universe and beyond,Darthinder, i agree teens take advantage of slang and forget about the real usage of language which is English.
I think Jake is going to show up tell the principle that it was him who told them the answers cause he feel guilty and he is going to tell. If Jake doesn't tell then i think Sarah will for sure.
@ gurinder you are right many teens are abandoning the proper use of language and it doesnt really help teens with witht heir proper words,and there for their language skills are really dropping.
@ El Presidente, Gotta agree with you there I have a hunch that Sarah will snitch on Jake for the fact that she doesn't want to take the punishment for being the ring-leader of the cheaters, and she might think that she might be getting a severer punishment for being the mastermind behind these acts and for that reason, she might blame someone else, I would do it. It just seems like the more realistic decision, blaming someone else.
I think the book thus far is very relistic because it is written just like a grade 8 student would think.In the other cheat thats what we were talkign about if the author did a good job writing it in a way a grade 8 person thinks.
I think they think somwwhat this way.They are oviously think of a way to convince the principal to not call there parents and a way to make there parents think that its not there fault.
The book is pretty realistic the way the character acts especially when they got caught cheating Jake was freaking out as if it was his first time in there, Dan's mom was funny though how she didn't let him talk the entire time she was yelling at him, especially when she was going all out the principle, and trying to defend her son shouting how he is innocent what about his school career becoming a lawyer. Even though he wants to do something sports related, an announcer for instant.
A lot of students will be like dan when they get in trouble pretending what is going on but they end up over doing it making it not convincing at all. People for the first time that get in trouble for something big they will start freaking out and just crumble apart unable to keep their cool. With sarah people will be scared to talk from what I think is happening they also start tumbling when trying to collect their things when their name gets called over the pa system; unless they can keep their cool.
The most realistic character would be Dan and Rob. The reason with Rob he if freaking out since he is worried about what if father is going to do to him when he found out that his own son cheated, but with Jake he got bamboozled into giving them to Sarah. She unintentionally seduced him to giving her the answers with her smile funny thing is she doesn't know if the answers were right. The other realistic character is Dan when he was pretending that he didn't know what was going on trying to keep his cool by having his smug look on. He could have put on a convincing act trying to act innocent instead of the what he was before; the only way anyone would believe him is ether they are to sympathetic but I digress that is possible. If he acted like the way sarah did that would have been better doing the I'm innocent i didn't do anything please spare me thing. Not a lot of people will be fooled though it mostly works when a girl does it.
@Tarundeep 10, i don't think Jake would rat them out because that is not equity, and if Sarah rats them out they could say that she was the one that gave everyone the answers .. i don't think that is realistic ..
I think Katie is the most realistic person because she chose not to cheat on the test because she didn't want to get into any trouble. This is pretty realistic because i am positive that no one wants to get into trouble for cheating on a test.
I think the most realistic character would have to be Dan's mother because any mommy would react like that , she would be really mad and she would be screaming at you in front of your friends and also because we barely know anything about the characters and what we heard about Dan's mother was really realistic. I think another realistic character is Ruby because she keeps saying the word "like" and a lot of girls say that frequently.
The book is realistic, but not in all ways. It shows exactly what people are thinking when they are sitting in a chair, that no one ever wants to sit in. Although the characters are not that realistic. e.g Dan. I never met a kid that talks as weird as him, and thinks all that fully of himself. as to a character like Sarah, who the magority of is interperet, is very popular and thinks all that fully of herself also. I have seen people who by an instant, can tell that they are very popular, ether by, what they wear, who they hang out with, all that stuff
the book is an interesting read except for ruby's consstant likelikelike.It's reazlistic
the most realistic character is the mother because she doesn't yell at her kid around others just talks like anyone would (or at least an angry person)then she explodes on her son giving him punishments and chores and on and on
I think all the characters are realistic because there reactions are what everyone would do theyll freak out during the test and in the office and get paranoid during the test but will think life is awful and they regret doing it in the office
@Pamela, i also think that The mom is realistic because a real mom would yell at there child if they ever got in trouble for cheating, and i also think that Dan is realistic because he was playing dumb with the principal .
I also like the book because as you go from what one persons thinking to anthers it really fills you in for example as we went from Dan thoughts of backstabbing to Robs thoughts of his dad To Sarah's thoughts it really shows how they go against each other or how they may secretly think to band together. Its unlike other books where you have to guess what they may be thinking.
Vanessa, i dont agree with you because not alot of people would say like in almost every sentence....take the grade 8's in this class for example , most of them dont really use "like "more then maybe 10 times a day
@Adam Who is Katie? But I agree with you. If you were doing something you weren't supposed to, like cheating, you would panic out of fear that you would get caught. So that is not exaggerated in what a teen would do making it realistic.
i think that the most realistic character is Roberto because he seems so worried of how his dad will think of how he cheated on his mid-term exam and sometimes i would have to relate to him because i wouldn't like understand and sometimes i might cheat on a test, but that was when i was in g4 or 3
I think the book is pretty realistic because, If you were caught cheating on an important test , you would get in trouble, and the principal probably would call your parents. but the most realistic part so far would be the mother yelling at the him , and giveing him pun ishments i know because i've heard these punishments before ! and it is very accurate of what happens in reality.
Do students in trouble outside the office really think this way?
i know how that feeling is to be standing outside the office waiting to be called in, and i know for sure that going through there minds, are what should they say ?, whats the principal gonna say ? and thinking if there friends are snitching them out !? so yeah its true, what there thinking happens.
Who is the most realistic character?
the most realistic characters so far would be the mom, and katie, because the mom yelled at her son and was pretty acccurate ! and katie is realistic because she chose not to cheat because she didnt want to get in trouble ! but then again, most kids dont think about that they just think about if there gonna pass or not !
@El Presidente Also,the whole story is narrated in a way that you actually know what's going on.The thoughts show everything happening,in an interesting perspective that continues to be realistic and amusing.
@ Darthinder, Does that not say something about the society we know and live in today? We have become lazy, and we shorten everything, for example, we use abbreviations in all these Social networking sites and programs, Like, for example, we use Lol instead of Laugh out loud, and truly, We aren't laughing out loud, maybe a chuckle, but that is what we say nowadays, to substitute all that empty space, to just say something. It doesn't even make sense when the whole thing is typed out. For example- Conversation
Person 1: Im Smart Person 2: Lol
This is an example of what happens in a conversation, just a tiny little blurb of what happens, we just fill space, because of laziness, and to settle matters of hypocrisy, I do the exact same thing, ask Anyone.
@EL Presidente, but if i were in their position i would rat out them, because then they would get in more trouble and the person wouldn't be in trouble, and that wouldn't be fair, but it is definitely realistic for someone to do that and be selfish .
And i think Ron and Dan are like me because in the start i would act dumb like Dan trying to see if he can get out of it by lieing and seeing if the principal would believe him and then when the principal lays out the evidence and says that he knows for sure that i did it i go into Rob mode and worry what my dads gonna do and freak out
@tarundeep I agree with talwinder i dont think jake is going to rat them out then it wont be as realistic.I think that the book going to get more interesting before it get to the point where someone rats someone out.
@Samantha , do you think that people standing outside the office waiting to get called in would think of a lie or do you think they would plan on telling the truth ?
@Adam that's also true, Katie could be also the most realistic character becuase what you said how she was freaking out during the test because she was ararid that she might get caught. So I also agree with you Katie might be the most realistic character.
@EL Presidente i agree with you but somtimes it can be very confusing about who is talking but you can ALWAYS tell when ruby is talking because she is always using "like"
@Talwinder I think the Mom is realistic but I think that she is taking away a lot from him. I know cheating on a mid-term is bad but some of the things she was taking away from him is unecessary.
@Talha it isn't because were Lazy its because in this day and age to use a cliche time is money and money is time therefore money is power in this society we shorten things to utilize our time.
@pamela it is pretty realistic because you dont want to get in trouble for cheating, but then again, when your in grade 8 i dont think your thinking about getting caught your just thinking about getting the awnsers correct !
the book seems realistic uptill they end up in the office but then they don't really get into any trouble seems unfair kind off.
the most realistic character is ruby and the mother.they both are acting like the the four are really trouble and did something really wrong. while the other four are like this isn't that big a deal. and i guess after ruby tells her firends they are goign to think that they are goign to get in some deep trouble but their are not really.and when the other stundents find the out that they really didn't get into any trouble they think they are hiding things from them.
@Alyssa, but a mom as to do what she has to do, Dan get consequences, and he has to live with it, because of one mistake .. i know its not fair, but Dan deserves, and if you haven't noticed its high school and they take things very seriously.
jan101 i didnt mension names and also i didnt say all teens i just said teens,that could go for some teens aswell,and you also say "like" aswell,sooooo......!!
@ elpresidente that is realistic parents blackmailing the principle trying to make it easier or by going on how they did so many things for the school, but the number one thing that gets them is money people these days are obsessed with money they all want to be rich. Everyone will take money if they get the chance everyone takes those opportunity because of greed. When Dan's mom tried to persuade the principle he didn't seem to care one bit at all he doesn't care about they have done for the school, even though he thanked her for it he could careless. Especially when they are tight with the principle like they are related or a close friend they'll let them off easy, if the principle is your parent that would just make it worst. Reason the school punishment; detention for example followed by having to clean up around the school or have to volunteer by force. When you get home the other part comes and is forced on you getting grounded everything gets taken away, they won't suspend you since they don't have the time to look after you at home.
I think that the book is very realistic about what we will do before during and after we get in trouble. Some of us would purposely get in trouble because our friends are doing it and so we decide to tag along,we shouldn't do bad things just because are friends are doing it,so what if they want to get in trouble,that is their problem,think how dissapointed your friends parents will be if they get caught with their sceme,that could also be your parent if you decide to follow them to be cool,you might get grounded for the rest of your life,you have to stand up for yourself and learn to make your own judgement,learn to lead,not to follow,and learn to do what is best,the right thing. Why would you make friends with someone that only wants to do the wrong thing and get in trouble?You should be friends to care for each other,not just to do bad things together. Others of us cheat because you didn't study and you want to ace the next test so your parents can be proud of you so you can get the latest game system and game but you should have remembered to study in the first place. The last group of us cheat because we have nothing else to do and we want to act cool. For me the most realistic character is Jake because alot of people panic when they do something bad and they get caught because they are afriad of making them dissapointed but if you are so afraid of making them dissapointed in the first place why bother to do something bad if you know what is going to happen after? As a said before in my comment make the right choice.
I agree with gurinder I think the most realistc person is the mother she would try to convince the principaol that her son/daughter was not in trouble and then take it out on the son/daughter and tell them that they nned to do better.
@abdullahi i agree with you but when people get into trouble thats when they usually think they did something wrong,not when they are doing to do it for example none of the characters in the book though about getting caught while they took the answers
@Pharoah I agree.But not just lazy,but meaningless too.As technology becomes more integrated into society,the meaning of words;their strength will deteriorate over time.Laughing at a joke or something is supposed to be done,when there's an actual joke! The overuse of ''LOL'' is so much that it doesn't mean anything anymore.It's just a word used after someone else types something up just so they can fill space (in a chat).
The behavior of these students...Realistic as it is,it is also very telling about us.This reaction to getting in trouble,which is to suddenly be quiet and start working on assignments is far too often.This reaction,I'll call it ''Forced Respect''.Humans,not just students have to learn by mistakes;why does it have to be like that? The mistake is to cheat,they know how to do it right but they don't.They know they can go to a teacher and get extra help in this,but they don't.
If these students weren't lazy,which also relates to initiative,so many problems could've been resolved.But the thing is,that Humans (in general) just happen to be like this instinctively.
@ tarundeep even if they don't get caught they still are going to have a feeling,that they cheated,got caught and got away with no one blamed. they or some are always are going to have a feeling that it happened because of me and i never got blamed,they are going to feel guilty.
@Stephanie i totally agree cause then it wont be then the story wont be reasonable no one in the real world give their selfs in for firends everyone is for them selfs. Maybe because when you are little and you try to help a firend the teachers say dont worry about him think about your selfs so that gets stuck in your head.
@Heli That can only happen if the students have a guilty conscience.These pathetic students don't look like they really care about how this affects the world.It's like they care more about themselves and how they're going to avoid falling into a punishment by the corrupt principal.
The only real person I see actually thinking about how this will affect the world is Sarah.She was thinking about saving the world from poverty and war in the beginning,if that isn't sarcasm and is true;she must be thinking about how this will affect her future and how she needs to apologize.
@Talwinder I also agree,like Stephanie.If Jake would actually confess,then the story wouldn't be interesting and realistic aswell.We've all heard about ''Don't Snitch! Or you're a (blank)''.This fear,this fear of the risk of losing your place in a social life and becoming a hated individual is something teenagers feel is devastating emotionally,mentally and sometimes physically.
Students have an urge,a feeling to be like they can do what they want.If they are held down by something like previous cheating failures and confessions,that will destroy the pillars that hold up what is their ''social life''.
@ gurinder I know, none of them really care about an apologize, for getting them all in trouble.But if they do realize that and feel guilty and tell the principal they are just going to get into more trouble then they already are,not that they got into really deep trouble.
@heli They haven't been exposed to such a feeling.To feel that someone has higher advantages,and that the other person doesn't need to do any work is a terrible feeling.It make you look at yourself and think ''What's the point in studying if the other person next to me has all the answers?'' Many students cave into this idea and then use it.Once it's used,it continues to grow like a ravenous vicious cycle.
They haven't been shown the perspective,or so I believe.
i think that the book is very realistic because cheating, everyone cheats at some point and when they get caught the same thing happens either they call your parents or deal with you personally(it deepens on what did you do). And in this book it tells you what happens when you cheat. The most realistic character i think is the mother and Dan. I think that the mother is one of the realistic characters because the way she was giving all the punishments to Rob they sound very realistic because i have heard them before. i think that Dan is also one of they realistic character because he is acting like he doesn't know anything and that's how people act when they are in trouble. So i think those are the two realistic characters for me. i also think that Rob is a realistic character from the way he act and says thing like how Sarah was going to act and how the principle should not call his parents because he is going to be in trouble which he is now and things like that. Those are the characters i think are the realistic.
don't their parents already know? and if they are feeling guilty then they wouldn't be scared,well at-least not as much as they were before the mid-term test.
@talwinder i agree the consequences in high school will be far more worst then middle school, but wait... what grade are these kids in again ? i thought they were in grade 8 , if not my bad !!! xP
@Sam Another thing to add,the teachers don't care for the students as much.When you're in high school,you've got to pull your act together and set your priorities straight.If you don't,nobody is going to slow down and help you out,so you've got to fix it up then.
The right answer would be to confess,make an honest apology and make up for cheating.But the reality is that they'll try to lie,get in trouble,and continue a mediocre education filled with pathetic attempts at cheating.
@ gurinder i agree with you that people and students wouldn't want to work harder then the person next to them,they know it's wrong but they still do it; they will think it's less hard work and if they do get caught then they are not alone.
@ talha i disagree with the lol statement since most people use it because they don't type as fast maybe or it is more convenient then just typing the entire thing. Also how else are we suppose to express laughter when online but if they are saying lol for real in real life just proves they are to lazy to even laugh.
@hitakshee .. agreed, Dan is very realistic because he denys everything that the principal was saying becaus ehe was in trouble... i know that this i realistic because, i have done tht many times ! :P but im just curious of what you think hitakshee, would you say that Sarah is a realistic character ?
@Heli The book is in the middle of having the parents discover that their children have been caught cheating.To the people that feel the real guilt,not just ''oh no I did something bad I need to tell the truth'' but ''Oh,I've done something unfair to society;I must make amends with everyone...Apologize and compensate.'' The previous quotation is what the truly guilty ones would feel like,but the ones that do not truly have shame would feel the first one because they are unaware,or not as enlightened.
@gurinder... but if it was exams you cheated on, there would be huge punishments for that. if it was other test, then yeah teachers expect you to be honest !
@Heli Because they feel as if they are not alone,It can be at their advantage.If the establishment,the representatives are weak against the rebels,they will resolve the issue by (in a way) terrorizing the students with threats of detention,expulsion,etc.If the representatives are strong,and they have a threatening group,rules will be bent and they won't be able to be fixed.
Students can make Principals act anyway they want to,it's their actions (the students') that speak louder than words.
@hitakshee i agree with you because i also think the mother is the most realistic because any other mother would do the same and give out the punishments and lecture(alot) the child
@Vanessa Over time,the branded name which is (blank) seems to fade away.If it doesn't,it can ruin a student's place on this ''social pyramid'' at school.It can brand them as an ''untrusted,lame,loser'' kind of person.It's terrible how much a life (or lives) can be affected negatively and sometimes positively by this almost class-ist system at every school.
well Sami i would say she is a realistic character but not that realistic. I think that she is a realistic character because she is trying to be really nice to Rob now so that he would not blame anything on her even though it's all her fault.
@ gurinder what if they are to scared to apologize because of the consequence of what will happen when they tell the truth. It would make it harder for them to realize their mistakes but also the punishment would be more harsh. It's much more better then waiting for someone else to tell the truth so that they can be called a "snitch"
i agree with you Gurinder because sometimes i also wonder why is life suppose to be affected by so many negative things. And sometimes when i think about this a lot it make me think that why does the life get affected by negative things more than the positive things. And mostly this kind of things(negative things)happens in school more.
yeah i agree Sami does have a point about how the students not may how they really react when they get called down to the VP' office or the Principle's office. Sharpshooter what do you think about this?
@ gurinder how do you think their parents are going to be like when they find out our if they are going to try and stop their parents from getting the phone call home. It would most likely be a convoluted plan they had to do, like they pretend to be their parents when they get the phone call home or be the principle if there is a conversation over the phone.
@ hitakshee some will try and keep their cool others will pretend it is nothing when they get the call, as if it is nothing or they are nervous if it is their first time going down there. I have seen it many times at school with people trying to keep their cool when this happens if it is their first time others they just casually walk out or nonchalantly do something then get up and go.
@Heli In our class,the rules are always being bent but never snapped that they have to make new ones.For example,bringing mp3 players to school.Sure it can be used for iRead for educational purposes,but people use it in class when they have the chance;taking an advantage.
Another one is how we can go to our lockers in between periods.Last year,in our class we weren't allowed to do that.Now that we're in grade 8,the rules are bending ever so obstusely (Does that make sense?).We can go to lockers and not get caught in between classes.It's like teachers want us to take advantage of going to the lockers.Maybe its to see how much ''integrity'' we might have or how prepared we are for school.
@sharpshooter i agree with you and many people have the same reaction if they get caught..like either act like nothing has happened or get really nervous/or try to keep cool and pretend nothing is wrong but i have a question for you..if you were cheating and you got caught what would your reaction be??
@ gurinder the name (blank) has not really faded because there is alot of teens saying it and many others,also that word is ruining a students social life which causes them to become a loser or end up with no friends,and really that word will mostly be there for a long time,and many teens use it to define someone they really hate or dont like.
@ Vanessa, i agree with you because the (blank) word can really ruin someones life like for example if some got called it maybe in middle school and then when they go to high schooll -and some people back from their middle school are their then the name is followed again
@Hitakshee We live in a capitalist society.By having capitalism,it unfortunately means some humans are seen more valuable than others.Humans are all unique,they all have different personalities and statuses.Because of this,we may see one group as ''popular'' and another as ''losers''.We judge on previous experiences and unfortunately by who the person is.
@ jan101 exactly thats what im saying,so the (blank)word cant really fade away because if your being bullied witht that word then it doesnt really fade it follows you for most of your life.
Heli you know how were saying that the rules are not bent very often but, well heli yeah rules are bent but happen very often because if people are not going to like to do something they hate they are going to not follow or do it just like rules, if some people don't like the rules people make of course they are not going to follow it instead they are going to bent it. one example of this is going to be in our school, UNIFORMS most of the grade 8 don't like uniforms(mostly girls)and so they wear skinny gins and things like that and that is how the bent the rule of uniforms. Just a few days ago you know how Mrs. Jackson said on the announcement and also came to our classroom and said that no one is suppose to wear anything but uniforms. But now no one follows that rule because they don't like it and so the rule is bent. So what i am trying to say is that rules is are bent very often. This is not the only way you bent the rules often but there are some other rules people follow in real world.
Yes i agree Vanessa that the blank word can't always fade. But you know how you said "that the if you are bullied with that word then it doesn't really fade it and follows you for your rest of the life" i don't think it can follow you for rest of your life. What make you think that it can make you follow for rest of your life?
@ hitakshee it follows you for the rest of your life because in the future you might be afraid of the world like your afraid to make friends and also you cant really move forward,even though you can move on with your life,you still have that scar in your life forever,i mean peoeple cant reverse their words.
Sami how are the rule made to be broken because if someone made a rule they have to follow not just bent it if you don't like them. And i agree people still do that and i am not saying that you should never break a rule but i am saying that not all the rules are made to be broken every single time.
well Vanessa yes i wear skinny jeans but not all the time and i was not saying that i am someone who never breaks the rule i am saying that most of the time people(including me) break rules just because they don't like it.
@PamelaaSuccessful , do you think the situation thats happening in the book is realistic ?
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Yes i do think the situation that is happening in the book is realistic because this relates to many teens in our society. Cheating on tests, getting in trouble, girlfriend and boyfriend drama and etc.
@PamelaaSuccessful, i agree with you, many teens cheat and they always think they always "get away" with it, but they end up getting caught sooner or later and they get bad consequences they thought they wouldn't get .. i think this also relates to "karma" what goes around comes around.
Yes karma is a great way to describe this situation because if you cheat your not going to get anywhere successful in life. If you are cheating for your whole life then when you head off to college or university you are doomed. Karma will hit you badly because you will get bad consequences in the end.
@Pamela, i agree karma is a very strong word, i think that if people cheat there not going to get anywhere in life and thus they should use there free time to do extra studying and catch upon other work. Yeah i also agree if you are in university and they catch you study you'd probably be kicked out of the school or in very much trouble .. i think that if you do something back it goes in your OSR.
A lot of students will be like dan when they get in trouble pretending what is going on but they end up over doing it. People for the first time that get in trouble for something big they will start freaking out and just crumble apart unable to keep their cool. Dan keeps his cool that's the thing about him. Whatever he's in trouble with he can keep his cool and predend like he doesn't know anything.
@Brown_Kid, I agree with you, many kids would be just like Dan, they would be scared to death and be like don't call my parents home i'm Innocent and panicking alot. Remember the part of the book where Dan was like "don't tell my old man i'd donate my organs just let me off the hook for this one time, and i will never cheat again" .. they are very desperate at this point, they don;t want to get in trouble.
@Brown_Kid I agree lots of kids would do that act like there innocent when most of the time they are. @Talwinder I also agree he did say that which makes me think that he really didn't want to get in trouble and that he was really desperate.But if he didn't want to get in trouble why did he cheat in the first place?
@Stephanie, i think most of the students when they cheat they think they will get away with it but eventually in reality they get caught, that is what Dan was thinking, if he cheats he wont get caught but in reality most likely he would get caught and get a lot of consequences.
@talwinder I agree they always think they can get away with it but I think that the consequences depends on which test or quiz there cheating on.Remember in the book one of the characters said that a student had already got caught doing there first quiz and his consequence was just to re-write it after school but this is a mid term exam so the consequences are going to be different.
@Stephanie, yes i agree and it also depends on what grade you are because if you are cheating in grade 4 the teachers will be like not like they no anything better, but in university, and you get caught cheating then you would probably fail and you can't do a re-take .. harsh.
@talwinder very harsh but the point of taken the test is for the teacher to see how good(smart) you are in that subjcet so if you cheat you dont get the benfit from it.All you get is to make your teacher think your smart then it comes time when you cant cheat and you wont know what to do then if just make you look bad.
@Stephanie, i agree the teachers take your skills to the test and see weather or not you get the subject, and at this point if you don't know anything, and you want to pass there is 2 choices, studying, or cheating, and cheating is the easier path so kids just to tend to follow it rather than studying it and remembering it for the rest of your life.
@Talwinder I agree if you cheat and get caught with most of the time you do get caught you end up having to learn it so I say take the right path in the begining because it end saving you time with out yout relizing it.If you cheat and get caught you waste your time trying to convince the principal you didnt do it then you have to learn it again, when from the start if you learned it it would save alot of time.
@Stephanie, i agree, once you get caught you have to the cycle all over again meaning the first time you choose to cheat get in trouble and do it again or you could have studied, good grades = good education. And if you get caught the student would get to "learn a new lesson" by never cheating, but i don't even know who created cheating because that is just wrong and it comes from also "slacking" perhaps and its just wrong, they just take the extra time from cheating and making a "plan" and use that time wisely by just studying and not getting sent to the principals office and not getting a call home and not getting consequences, see how much life is easier when you just study rather than getting caught.
@Talwinder,I agree its all part of a cycle and you choose where you want to go on that cycle.When people cheat once they thinks its okay to cheat again and again,which is wrong once you cheat your just making it worst for yourself because eventually there come a time when you cant cheat and if make you start all over again.
I disagree with the part of who invented cheating because our life is not perfect and probably never will but i also agree because cheating hold you back instead of taking you forward even if you learn/hear the lecture you either choose to listen to it or ignore it and by doing that you choose your path in life but you can also change it.
@stephanie It is cycle. once you start cheating, you'll continue to cheat. Like for example, if you started smoking, it's hard to stop and can become part of your life to smoke. Cheating is similar. Once you start cheating, it's hard to stop and you just continue doing it.
I think the most realistc person is the mother because she would try to convince the principal that her son/daughter was not in trouble. Then take it out on the son/daughter and tell them that they need to do better and how to take responsbility in there work and how it's not good to cheat.
Ya Stephanie I agree that cycle does comply because once you get caught cheating then you start to make up more lies to cover up your mistake. Just like Dan when hes like "I dont know what your talking about". Also " Why am I here I didn't do nothing". So that cycle does work.
But Stephanie and Talwinder sometime its not the students fault because if the student knows that his/her teacher is a hard marker and if you put so much work into ur work and then the teacher gives u a bad mark, you would think about cheating because you know that as much effort you put into ur work you'll get a bad mark, so the only opption you have is to cheat. So sometimes its also the teachers fault that the student cheats. Also if pressure comes to the student that also makes the student think about cheating.
@Alyssa good example and yes it is just like smoking once you start it becomes a bad habit that's difficult to break but not impossible.But the cycle does not have to be the same if your choice to either break it change it start a new one.
@Prayas i agree and mostly all people do that they start on a cycle choose the wrong path and chose lieing to cover it up till they fact the fact and just tell the truth .
@stephanie that is true. A cycle can be broken it just depends if you're ready to make the change and break the cycle.If you don't make the change, it doesn't mean you can't, it just means you aren't ready.
@Alyssa there's that and there's that they don't think that there ready to make the change.sometimes a person telling you something can make you change your mind about something.
@Stephanie yes sometimes a person telling you that you can change will make you change. But if you don't trust the person then you probably won't. And if they don't think that they are ready to make the change, isn't that the same as saying they aren't ready to make the change?
The book is extremely realistic.All the character traits that the characters have;I've seen them before.Several times in fact.For example,Dan.He did study the cheated answers,and then keeps trying to pretend that nothing happens.In school,people bully and attack others and a principal catches them.They start to act like nothing happens,and then it just makes their punishment all the more worse.
ReplyDeleteYes,they do think this way.They go into a breakdown,they just give up on telling lies because it's too much pressure.In their mind,they realize that resistance is futile.For example,Rob.
ReplyDeleteHe realizes his mistake and now he has to worry about his dad punishing him.
The most realistic character I think is the mother.All those types of punishments...I've heard them all before! They act calm and civilized to show that they've raised their children properly,and then when they get home they turn into monsters!
ReplyDeleteI've seen it happen before when parents get a bad review by the teachers.At the interview,the parents are all calm and they take in the negative things and sometimes dart back.Then,on the car ride home they will rip out all these punishments and figuratively shackle you to your bedroom.
The book is pretty realistic and to tie this in with something weve done the mom black mailing the principal because of her contributes to the school is ineqaulity if another child in that situation with a mother who hadnt done all that in terms of monetary fundraising for the school wouldve got off in much more trouble. Thats another thing parents who fundraise a whole lot can do.
ReplyDeleteThis book is very realistic it can related to most of the kid around the globe to there life in connection, when they get caught the principal will do anything to make the child learn there lesson and suffer. Even there personality is realistic the way Ruby says always "like" teen around the world do that to ..
ReplyDelete@El Presidente It's like an advantage of systemic racism.If you're rich,you can get into less trouble! If this irrelevant comment of fund-raising is used,and accepted,it means that the principal is being bribed or is corrupt.
ReplyDeleteTerrible!
I don't think think children outside of office really think about cheating or getting caught, every children dream is cheating and getting away with it by passing and the teachers not realizing, but when it comes to high school teachers taking cheating to a whole new level by giving them consequences etc, in middle school teacher just make the child suffer and learn there lesson but in high school they give a call home and make the child do extra work.
ReplyDeleteI thik rob is the most realistic character because he is like panicking that his parent are going to find out if i was in rons postion i would be freaking out like that aswell but danny i think he was always a bad kid so thats why mybe he wasn't that worried about getting caught and his mom she didn't really care cause she said wait untill my oppoint is he is really spoiled
ReplyDelete@Talwinder I agree,that's another very realistic character in the book.Teenagers that have obtained such a diminutive vocabulary,like Ruby are hysterical! And if they don't say like,they might say ''um''.
ReplyDeletei think the book is realistic and most of the characters too but not really Ruby nobody really uses "like" in every or every second sentence unless any one actually knows some who does that
ReplyDeleteand im just wondering , did 3 of them fail the mid term test and have to do it again or is it going to be the same thing??
i think the book is so realistic from the part that these people cheat to Rob who keeps saying like. these things happen because of the underdevelopment of the teenage mind. Either that or their brains are like sponges, once squished the information is out of their heads
ReplyDelete@Usman Panicking,everyone goes through that.It's almost like every character is realistic! I think everyone who's been in trouble before has felt this way before;scared of what their parents might do...Or wouldn't do.
ReplyDeleteI think this book is very realistic as though it was a real situation taken out of ones memory and written down.
ReplyDeleteThis type off stuff really deos happen reminds me of the time i was in french class in grade 6 a boy cheated on his test the teacher caught him and it was the day of parent teacher interviews and his parents had set up a appointment with the french teacher. The french teacher riped his page in front of the class and told him he had a 0, he wasnt aloud to do redo the test.
I think the most realistic character is Dan or Rob which ever one them who got grounded and was shouted at. I think this because he wasthe one who atually got a phone call home and was grounded which is realistic. aI wonder if Sarah and the other guy got in any trouble?
I think the book is pretty realistic because if someone were to come up to you and tell you that they had the answers to a test, you would obviously take it. Then obviously you would get caught in the end because the teacher will find out somehow. This probably happens frequently in our world because not a lot of people study for tests.
ReplyDeleteI think the book is realistic in the way things happen like the students sitting outside the office and each of them being called into the office and asked questions. But the characters seem very stereotyped like the girl who says like all the time (I forgot her name).
ReplyDeleteI think the students outside the office may think this way because they are thinking of different things to say to the principal so they can get in the least trouble. They are also thinking about why they decided to cheat. I think that is what would be going through someones head if they were in trouble. But I also think that if you were in trouble outside the office, you might be thinking about what your parents are going to say and what your punishment might be.
I think the most realistic character is Rob because he seems like the typical kid who's really upset and doesn't understand why he decided to cheat. He's really upset because of that and I can see this happening to someone in real life.
I predict that Sarah will crack very soon and snitch on Jake because she doesn't want to take the heat and I think as for now shes not snitching on Jake because Sarah wants to use Jakes answers in the future or she may actually have feeling for him.
ReplyDeleteI think the most realistic character is Ruby, and Dan.
ReplyDeleteRuby : Most kids always talk by saying like in between a lot of words, and they get used to it.
Dan : He acted stupid in front of the principal by always saying, what where who why etc.
The book seems very realistic because maybe some people could relate to the book , and its really realistic because this type of situation can happen in any grade and it probably already happened .. therefore the situation that everyone is in right now and whatever they are feeling seem to be realistic, and i think that a lot of kids can relate to the things that are happening in the school.
ReplyDeleteI think the book is Fairly realistic considering all the things that are going on in these five people's lives are alike any five North American 8th Graders lives are or will be. For example, cheating is obviously one of the issues in our schools, and the way that Dan, Rob and Sarah went about cheating is not quite the way I'd go, but it's pretty Realistic, like it's just an email, not an arrow shot from halfway across a city with the cheats attached to it landing right in front of you, that is pure fantasy, if not very, very lucky. Also that there are other things going on in their lives at the same time, like for example, Dan and Ruby were apparently dating, and then apparently, Ruby thought that since Sarah and Dan were "studying" together, That made them a couple, making Ruby angry because he left her for someone else. That is very common in everyday middle school life. Just by the way the students act, I can tell that the author actually understands how we teenagers act(Except for Ruby, I think she's too much of a teenager).
ReplyDeleteI think that the character of Dan is a perfect example of how people who oft get in trouble react to these type of situations, dealing with the Principal, dealing with a teacher, it all becomes a norm. Dan acts all proud and happy because he feels accomplished. Obviously we're not too far in the book, but we have a sense of the characters' personalities. So he, in my biased opinion, is the most realistic character
I think the book is kind of realistic cause yesterday some of my friends were caught ditching and the new principle let them off the hook cause they haven't done it before and cause she was a new Principle. They were accusing each other for being caught. The most realistic character of them is Ruby cause people often wonder whats going on in their and the often look through the windows or snoop through doors and they often tell them your so stupid to do that.
ReplyDeletemy bad it was actually Dan who says like
ReplyDelete@Jan I believe they were tipped off by an eavesdropper,or one of the cheaters caved in.A teacher gave the evidence to the principal.It might not be here,but in high schools;there's those people that are always talking too fast and too much.
ReplyDeleteThis book so far is kind of getting interesting because with every chapter comes a different character from the story. It's interesting reading through every characters eyes and perspective. Yes students outside the office think this way because when any student gets called to the office without them telling why they are called down, the firwst thing that comes in their mind is that they are in trouble or getting a phone call home for doing something the student doesn't know. That's just how it is. I think the most realistic character is Rob because everyone thinks when they get into trouble the first thing that would come into t he students mind is dont tell my parents because they dont want to get into trouble.
ReplyDelete@Mentally Superior in the Dark Arts of Negativity and Criticism,Artistically Overpowering,Imperial Overlord of the Entire Universe and beyond,Darthinder, i agree teens don't have the greatest vocabulary, they always add different words and it doesn't make sense, and then you get the hang of it when you hang out with them a lot.
ReplyDeleteIts their faults though for getting themselves into this trouble but I feel if these characters were real than they would have not learned their lesson and would cheat in the future but for now their innocent till proven guilty.
ReplyDelete@Janat I agree because no one says like that much except for stereotypes of girly-girls.
ReplyDeletethe most realistic character so far looks to be Katie. When katie was doing the exam she was freaking out if she would get caught. i would probably do the same thing, because i know that feeling you get when you are doing something that you are not supposed to, and if you get caught, you would get in really big trouble, so i can only amagine what she was going through.
ReplyDeletei agree with zak when sharh finds out that she is going to get in trouble she will find the easyest out and that is blaming it on jake but she still won't get out since she accephted the answers her self.
ReplyDeleteYes I think students outside the office are panicking or what ever because they don't know whats going on in the room and what their saying. If I were in this situation and i was outside the office waiting, i would be panicking because they could be telling lies and telling the principal ( or whoever is in the room with them) that it was my idea.
ReplyDelete@Talwinder It happens too much.Teens are abandoning proper use of language and now using more and more inappropriate and extremely obscene,absurd choice of language.
ReplyDeleteTeens enjoy slang more than the fine art that is English... just because it's easier
The book is realistic because teens actually act this way because they keep saying "like" and they also cheat in school,i think some students do becuase they would go to their friends then they would act like they dont care,but actually whats running through their mind is that their scraed of what might happen to them.(trust me i felt like that before.)
ReplyDeleteStudents outside the office don't always think this way because I think for some theirs an air of code between the perpetrators but after sometime I think especially between those who are not that close they will think about starting to turn on each other just as Dan had to save his own self.
ReplyDeleteI think it depends on what kind of character the person has , but i think everyone who was sitting outside the office thought about telling a lie to get them out of trouble but only some people would go through with the lie and some people would tell the truth.
ReplyDelete@Mentally, I agree and I think that vocabulary like Rubys is so annoying because all u hear is LIKE.
ReplyDelete@Plan B en-G, i agree with you, Katie seems like a realistic character to because she was freaking out during the mid-term exams for geography and more than 50% of students always get nervous during an exam or test .. etc.
ReplyDelete@Mentally Superior in the Dark Arts of Negativity and Criticism,Artistically Overpowering,Imperial Overlord of the Entire Universe and beyond,Darthinder, i agree teens take advantage of slang and forget about the real usage of language which is English.
ReplyDeleteI think Jake is going to show up tell the principle that it was him who told them the answers cause he feel guilty and he is going to tell. If Jake doesn't tell then i think Sarah will for sure.
ReplyDelete@ gurinder you are right many teens are abandoning the proper use of language and it doesnt really help teens with witht heir proper words,and there for their language skills are really dropping.
ReplyDelete@ El Presidente, Gotta agree with you there
ReplyDeleteI have a hunch that Sarah will snitch on Jake for the fact that she doesn't want to take the punishment for being the ring-leader of the cheaters, and she might think that she might be getting a severer punishment for being the mastermind behind these acts and for that reason, she might blame someone else, I would do it. It just seems like the more realistic decision, blaming someone else.
I think the book thus far is very relistic because it is written just like a grade 8 student would think.In the other cheat thats what we were talkign about if the author did a good job writing it in a way a grade 8 person thinks.
ReplyDeleteI think they think somwwhat this way.They are oviously think of a way to convince the principal to not call there parents and a way to make there parents think that its not there fault.
The book is pretty realistic the way the character acts especially when they got caught cheating Jake was freaking out as if it was his first time in there, Dan's mom was funny though how she didn't let him talk the entire time she was yelling at him, especially when she was going all out the principle, and trying to defend her son shouting how he is innocent what about his school career becoming a lawyer. Even though he wants to do something sports related, an announcer for instant.
ReplyDeleteA lot of students will be like dan when they get in trouble pretending what is going on but they end up over doing it making it not convincing at all. People for the first time that get in trouble for something big they will start freaking out and just crumble apart unable to keep their cool. With sarah people will be scared to talk from what I think is happening they also start tumbling when trying to collect their things when their name gets called over the pa system; unless they can keep their cool.
The most realistic character would be Dan and Rob. The reason with Rob he if freaking out since he is worried about what if father is going to do to him when he found out that his own son cheated, but with Jake he got bamboozled into giving them to Sarah. She unintentionally seduced him to giving her the answers with her smile funny thing is she doesn't know if the answers were right.
The other realistic character is Dan when he was pretending that he didn't know what was going on trying to keep his cool by having his smug look on. He could have put on a convincing act trying to act innocent instead of the what he was before; the only way anyone would believe him is ether they are to sympathetic but I digress that is possible. If he acted like the way sarah did that would have been better doing the I'm innocent i didn't do anything please spare me thing. Not a lot of people will be fooled though it mostly works when a girl does it.
@Tarundeep 10, i don't think Jake would rat them out because that is not equity, and if Sarah rats them out they could say that she was the one that gave everyone the answers .. i don't think that is realistic ..
ReplyDeleteI think Katie is the most realistic person because she chose not to cheat on the test because she didn't want to get into any trouble. This is pretty realistic because i am positive that no one wants to get into trouble for cheating on a test.
ReplyDeleteI think the most realistic character would have to be Dan's mother because any mommy would react like that , she would be really mad and she would be screaming at you in front of your friends and also because we barely know anything about the characters and what we heard about Dan's mother was really realistic. I think another realistic character is Ruby because she keeps saying the word "like" and a lot of girls say that frequently.
ReplyDeleteThe book is realistic, but not in all ways. It shows exactly what people are thinking when they are sitting in a chair, that no one ever wants to sit in. Although the characters are not that realistic. e.g Dan. I never met a kid that talks as weird as him, and thinks all that fully of himself. as to a character like Sarah, who the magority of is interperet, is very popular and thinks all that fully of herself also. I have seen people who by an instant, can tell that they are very popular, ether by, what they wear, who they hang out with, all that stuff
ReplyDeletethe book is an interesting read except for ruby's consstant likelikelike.It's reazlistic
ReplyDeletethe most realistic character is the mother because she doesn't yell at her kid around others just talks like anyone would (or at least an angry person)then she explodes on her son giving him punishments and chores and on and on
I think all the characters are realistic because there reactions are what everyone would do theyll freak out during the test and in the office and get paranoid during the test but will think life is awful and they regret doing it in the office
ReplyDelete@Pamela, i also think that The mom is realistic because a real mom would yell at there child if they ever got in trouble for cheating, and i also think that Dan is realistic because he was playing dumb with the principal .
ReplyDeleteI also like the book because as you go from what one persons thinking to anthers it really fills you in for example as we went from Dan thoughts of backstabbing to Robs thoughts of his dad To Sarah's thoughts it really shows how they go against each other or how they may secretly think to band together. Its unlike other books where you have to guess what they may be thinking.
ReplyDeleteVanessa, i dont agree with you because not alot of people would say like in almost every sentence....take the grade 8's in this class for example , most of them dont really use "like "more then maybe 10 times a day
ReplyDelete@Adam Who is Katie? But I agree with you. If you were doing something you weren't supposed to, like cheating, you would panic out of fear that you would get caught. So that is not exaggerated in what a teen would do making it realistic.
ReplyDeletei think that the most realistic character is Roberto because he seems so worried of how his dad will think of how he cheated on his mid-term exam and sometimes i would have to relate to him because i wouldn't like understand and sometimes i might cheat on a test, but that was when i was in g4 or 3
ReplyDeleteHow realistic do you think the book is thus far?
ReplyDeleteI think the book is pretty realistic because, If you were caught cheating on an important test , you would get in trouble, and the principal probably would call your parents. but the most realistic part so far would be the mother yelling at the him , and giveing him pun ishments i know because i've heard these punishments before ! and it is very accurate of what happens in reality.
Do students in trouble outside the office really think this way?
i know how that feeling is to be standing outside the office waiting to be called in, and i know for sure that going through there minds, are what should they say ?, whats the principal gonna say ? and thinking if there friends are snitching them out !? so yeah its true, what there thinking happens.
Who is the most realistic character?
the most realistic characters so far would be the mom, and katie, because the mom yelled at her son and was pretty acccurate ! and katie is realistic because she chose not to cheat because she didnt want to get in trouble ! but then again, most kids dont think about that they just think about if there gonna pass or not !
@talwinder Just because its not equitable doesn't mean it wont happen its actually realistic if that inequality happens.
ReplyDelete@Tarundeep, what if none of them tell and get away with it or if the principle figures it out him self or what if they get away with it?
ReplyDelete@El Presidente Also,the whole story is narrated in a way that you actually know what's going on.The thoughts show everything happening,in an interesting perspective that continues to be realistic and amusing.
ReplyDelete@ Darthinder,
ReplyDeleteDoes that not say something about the society we know and live in today? We have become lazy, and we shorten everything, for example, we use abbreviations in all these Social networking sites and programs, Like, for example, we use Lol instead of Laugh out loud, and truly, We aren't laughing out loud, maybe a chuckle, but that is what we say nowadays, to substitute all that empty space, to just say something. It doesn't even make sense when the whole thing is typed out. For example- Conversation
Person 1: Im Smart
Person 2: Lol
This is an example of what happens in a conversation, just a tiny little blurb of what happens, we just fill space, because of laziness, and to settle matters of hypocrisy, I do the exact same thing, ask Anyone.
@EL Presidente, but if i were in their position i would rat out them, because then they would get in more trouble and the person wouldn't be in trouble, and that wouldn't be fair, but it is definitely realistic for someone to do that and be selfish .
ReplyDeleteAnd i think Ron and Dan are like me because in the start i would act dumb like Dan trying to see if he can get out of it by lieing and seeing if the principal would believe him and then when the principal lays out the evidence and says that he knows for sure that i did it i go into Rob mode and worry what my dads gonna do and freak out
ReplyDelete@tarundeep I agree with talwinder i dont think jake is going to rat them out then it wont be as realistic.I think that the book going to get more interesting before it get to the point where someone rats someone out.
ReplyDelete@Samantha , do you think that people standing outside the office waiting to get called in would think of a lie or do you think they would plan on telling the truth ?
ReplyDelete@Adam that's also true, Katie could be also the most realistic character becuase what you said how she was freaking out during the test because she was ararid that she might get caught. So I also agree with you Katie might be the most realistic character.
ReplyDelete@EL Presidente i agree with you but somtimes it can be very confusing about who is talking but you can ALWAYS tell when ruby is talking because she is always using "like"
ReplyDelete@Talwinder I think the Mom is realistic but I think that she is taking away a lot from him. I know cheating on a mid-term is bad but some of the things she was taking away from him is unecessary.
ReplyDelete@Talha it isn't because were Lazy its because in this day and age to use a cliche time is money and money is time therefore money is power in this society we shorten things to utilize our time.
ReplyDelete@pamela it is pretty realistic because you dont want to get in trouble for cheating, but then again, when your in grade 8 i dont think your thinking about getting caught your just thinking about getting the awnsers correct !
ReplyDeletethe book seems realistic uptill they end up in the office but then they don't really get into any trouble seems unfair kind off.
ReplyDeletethe most realistic character is ruby and the mother.they both are acting like the the four are really trouble and did something really wrong. while the other four are like this isn't that big a deal.
and i guess after ruby tells her firends they are goign to think that they are goign to get in some deep trouble but their are not really.and when the other stundents find the out that they really didn't get into any trouble they think they are hiding things from them.
@Alyssa, but a mom as to do what she has to do, Dan get consequences, and he has to live with it, because of one mistake .. i know its not fair, but Dan deserves, and if you haven't noticed its high school and they take things very seriously.
ReplyDeleteSo what happened to Katie I wasn't here at that part of the book did she go through with her choice to cheat or did she just do the test on her own.
ReplyDelete@ El Presidente
ReplyDeleteThat too is what society is based on, Money. And I agree with you, but what does time and money have to do with a Lol?
@Samantha, i think the consequences will be far more different for getting caught in high school than in middle school.
ReplyDeletejan101 i didnt mension names and also i didnt say all teens i just said teens,that could go for some teens aswell,and you also say "like" aswell,sooooo......!!
ReplyDelete@PamelaaSuccessful , do you think the situation thats happening in the book is realistic ?
ReplyDeleteNice one @Talha thats true about what you said how LOL means Laugh out loud but you are not really laughing out loud your just chuckling
ReplyDelete@ elpresidente that is realistic parents blackmailing the principle trying to make it easier or by going on how they did so many things for the school, but the number one thing that gets them is money people these days are obsessed with money they all want to be rich. Everyone will take money if they get the chance everyone takes those opportunity because of greed. When Dan's mom tried to persuade the principle he didn't seem to care one bit at all he doesn't care about they have done for the school, even though he thanked her for it he could careless. Especially when they are tight with the principle like they are related or a close friend they'll let them off easy, if the principle is your parent that would just make it worst. Reason the school punishment; detention for example followed by having to clean up around the school or have to volunteer by force. When you get home the other part comes and is forced on you getting grounded everything gets taken away, they won't suspend you since they don't have the time to look after you at home.
ReplyDelete@niida- in reality they would of probably been thinking of a couple of lies , but they probably are horrible lies !!! :P
ReplyDelete@van i was just giving an example :P
ReplyDeleteI think that the book is very realistic about what we will do before during and after we get in trouble. Some of us would purposely get in trouble because our friends are doing it and so we decide to tag along,we shouldn't do bad things just because are friends are doing it,so what if they want to get in trouble,that is their problem,think how dissapointed your friends parents will be if they get caught with their sceme,that could also be your parent if you decide to follow them to be cool,you might get grounded for the rest of your life,you have to stand up for yourself and learn to make your own judgement,learn to lead,not to follow,and learn to do what is best,the right thing. Why would you make friends with someone that only wants to do the wrong thing and get in trouble?You should be friends to care for each other,not just to do bad things together. Others of us cheat because you didn't study and you want to ace the next test so your parents can be proud of you so you can get the latest game system and game but you should have remembered to study in the first place. The last group of us cheat because we have nothing else to do and we want to act cool. For me the most realistic character is Jake because alot of people panic when they do something bad and they get caught because they are afriad of making them dissapointed but if you are so afraid of making them dissapointed in the first place why bother to do something bad if you know what is going to happen after? As a said before in my comment make the right choice.
ReplyDeleteI agree with gurinder I think the most realistc person is the mother she would try to convince the principaol that her son/daughter was not in trouble and then take it out on the son/daughter and tell them that they nned to do better.
ReplyDelete@abdullahi i agree with you but when people get into trouble thats when they usually think they did something wrong,not when they are doing to do it for example none of the characters in the book though about getting caught while they took the answers
ReplyDelete@Pharoah I agree.But not just lazy,but meaningless too.As technology becomes more integrated into society,the meaning of words;their strength will deteriorate over time.Laughing at a joke or something is supposed to be done,when there's an actual joke! The overuse of ''LOL'' is so much that it doesn't mean anything anymore.It's just a word used after someone else types something up just so they can fill space (in a chat).
ReplyDeleteThe behavior of these students...Realistic as it is,it is also very telling about us.This reaction to getting in trouble,which is to suddenly be quiet and start working on assignments is far too often.This reaction,I'll call it ''Forced Respect''.Humans,not just students have to learn by mistakes;why does it have to be like that? The mistake is to cheat,they know how to do it right but they don't.They know they can go to a teacher and get extra help in this,but they don't.
ReplyDeleteIf these students weren't lazy,which also relates to initiative,so many problems could've been resolved.But the thing is,that Humans (in general) just happen to be like this instinctively.
@arvinder If they dont get caught then they are lucky cause they all are off the hook the withone even one of them taking the blame.
ReplyDelete@ tarundeep
ReplyDeleteeven if they don't get caught they still are going to have a feeling,that they cheated,got caught and got away with no one blamed. they or some are always are going to have a feeling that it happened because of me and i never got blamed,they are going to feel guilty.
@Stephanie i totally agree cause then it wont be then the story wont be reasonable no one in the real world give their selfs in for firends everyone is for them selfs. Maybe because when you are little and you try to help a firend the teachers say dont worry about him think about your selfs so that gets stuck in your head.
ReplyDelete@ jan101 but still im just saying,like i even say "like" too!see i just said it!
ReplyDelete@Heli That can only happen if the students have a guilty conscience.These pathetic students don't look like they really care about how this affects the world.It's like they care more about themselves and how they're going to avoid falling into a punishment by the corrupt principal.
ReplyDeleteThe only real person I see actually thinking about how this will affect the world is Sarah.She was thinking about saving the world from poverty and war in the beginning,if that isn't sarcasm and is true;she must be thinking about how this will affect her future and how she needs to apologize.
@Heli they wont feel the guilt they will just be scared cause someone might tell thier parents and they dont wont to get in trouble.
ReplyDelete@Talwinder I also agree,like Stephanie.If Jake would actually confess,then the story wouldn't be interesting and realistic aswell.We've all heard about ''Don't Snitch! Or you're a (blank)''.This fear,this fear of the risk of losing your place in a social life and becoming a hated individual is something teenagers feel is devastating emotionally,mentally and sometimes physically.
ReplyDeleteStudents have an urge,a feeling to be like they can do what they want.If they are held down by something like previous cheating failures and confessions,that will destroy the pillars that hold up what is their ''social life''.
@ gurinder not all ppl are like that, there are some ppl who are different, but i still get what your saying.
ReplyDelete@ gurinder
ReplyDeleteI know, none of them really care about an apologize, for getting them all in trouble.But if they do realize that and feel guilty and tell the principal they are just going to get into more trouble then they already are,not that they got into really deep trouble.
@heli They haven't been exposed to such a feeling.To feel that someone has higher advantages,and that the other person doesn't need to do any work is a terrible feeling.It make you look at yourself and think ''What's the point in studying if the other person next to me has all the answers?'' Many students cave into this idea and then use it.Once it's used,it continues to grow like a ravenous vicious cycle.
ReplyDeleteThey haven't been shown the perspective,or so I believe.
i think that the book is very realistic because cheating, everyone cheats at some point and when they get caught the same thing happens either they call your parents or deal with you personally(it deepens on what did you do). And in this book it tells you what happens when you cheat. The most realistic character i think is the mother and Dan. I think that the mother is one of the realistic characters because the way she was giving all the punishments to Rob they sound very realistic because i have heard them before. i think that Dan is also one of they realistic character because he is acting like he doesn't know anything and that's how people act when they are in trouble. So i think those are the two realistic characters for me. i also think that Rob is a realistic character from the way he act and says thing like how Sarah was going to act and how the principle should not call his parents because he is going to be in trouble which he is now and things like that. Those are the characters i think are the realistic.
ReplyDelete@ tarundeep
ReplyDeletedon't their parents already know?
and if they are feeling guilty then they wouldn't be scared,well at-least not as much as they were before the mid-term test.
@talwinder i agree the consequences in high school will be far more worst then middle school, but wait... what grade are these kids in again ? i thought they were in grade 8 , if not my bad !!! xP
ReplyDelete@Sam Another thing to add,the teachers don't care for the students as much.When you're in high school,you've got to pull your act together and set your priorities straight.If you don't,nobody is going to slow down and help you out,so you've got to fix it up then.
ReplyDeleteThe right answer would be to confess,make an honest apology and make up for cheating.But the reality is that they'll try to lie,get in trouble,and continue a mediocre education filled with pathetic attempts at cheating.
@ gurinder
ReplyDeletei agree with you that people and students wouldn't want to work harder then the person next to them,they know it's wrong but they still do it; they will think it's less hard work and if they do get caught then they are not alone.
@ talha i disagree with the lol statement since most people use it because they don't type as fast maybe or it is more convenient then just typing the entire thing. Also how else are we suppose to express laughter when online but if they are saying lol for real in real life just proves they are to lazy to even laugh.
ReplyDeleteHeli the were not scared before the mid-term test.
ReplyDelete@hitakshee .. agreed, Dan is very realistic because he denys everything that the principal was saying becaus ehe was in trouble... i know that this i realistic because, i have done tht many times ! :P but im just curious of what you think hitakshee, would you say that Sarah is a realistic character ?
ReplyDelete@Heli The book is in the middle of having the parents discover that their children have been caught cheating.To the people that feel the real guilt,not just ''oh no I did something bad I need to tell the truth'' but ''Oh,I've done something unfair to society;I must make amends with everyone...Apologize and compensate.'' The previous quotation is what the truly guilty ones would feel like,but the ones that do not truly have shame would feel the first one because they are unaware,or not as enlightened.
ReplyDelete@ gurinder you are right but everyone has been a snitch before,and most ppl have been called a (blank)and yes you are right.
ReplyDelete@gurinder... but if it was exams you cheated on, there would be huge punishments for that. if it was other test, then yeah teachers expect you to be honest !
ReplyDelete@Heli Because they feel as if they are not alone,It can be at their advantage.If the establishment,the representatives are weak against the rebels,they will resolve the issue by (in a way) terrorizing the students with threats of detention,expulsion,etc.If the representatives are strong,and they have a threatening group,rules will be bent and they won't be able to be fixed.
ReplyDeleteStudents can make Principals act anyway they want to,it's their actions (the students') that speak louder than words.
@hitakshee i agree with you because i also think the mother is the most realistic because any other mother would do the same and give out the punishments and lecture(alot) the child
ReplyDelete@ hitakshee
ReplyDeletemy bad, i meant when they were called to the office waiting to be called in the principle room.
@Vanessa Over time,the branded name which is (blank) seems to fade away.If it doesn't,it can ruin a student's place on this ''social pyramid'' at school.It can brand them as an ''untrusted,lame,loser'' kind of person.It's terrible how much a life (or lives) can be affected negatively and sometimes positively by this almost class-ist system at every school.
ReplyDeletewell Sami i would say she is a realistic character but not that realistic. I think that she is a realistic character because she is trying to be really nice to Rob now so that he would not blame anything on her even though it's all her fault.
ReplyDelete@ gurinder what if they are to scared to apologize because of the consequence of what will happen when they tell the truth. It would make it harder for them to realize their mistakes but also the punishment would be more harsh. It's much more better then waiting for someone else to tell the truth so that they can be called a "snitch"
ReplyDelete@ hitakshee sam has a point on how students may act when they get called down to the principle's office.
ReplyDeletei agree with you Gurinder because sometimes i also wonder why is life suppose to be affected by so many negative things. And sometimes when i think about this a lot it make me think that why does the life get affected by negative things more than the positive things. And mostly this kind of things(negative things)happens in school more.
ReplyDelete@ gurinder
ReplyDeleteyes, i agree rules could be bent but i don't think so it happens that often; when that is when they did something wrong like cheating.
yeah i agree Sami does have a point about how the students not may how they really react when they get called down to the VP' office or the Principle's office. Sharpshooter what do you think about this?
ReplyDelete@ gurinder how do you think their parents are going to be like when they find out our if they are going to try and stop their parents from getting the phone call home. It would most likely be a convoluted plan they had to do, like they pretend to be their parents when they get the phone call home or be the principle if there is a conversation over the phone.
ReplyDelete@ hitakshee some will try and keep their cool others will pretend it is nothing when they get the call, as if it is nothing or they are nervous if it is their first time going down there. I have seen it many times at school with people trying to keep their cool when this happens if it is their first time others they just casually walk out or nonchalantly do something then get up and go.
ReplyDelete@Heli In our class,the rules are always being bent but never snapped that they have to make new ones.For example,bringing mp3 players to school.Sure it can be used for iRead for educational purposes,but people use it in class when they have the chance;taking an advantage.
ReplyDeleteAnother one is how we can go to our lockers in between periods.Last year,in our class we weren't allowed to do that.Now that we're in grade 8,the rules are bending ever so obstusely (Does that make sense?).We can go to lockers and not get caught in between classes.It's like teachers want us to take advantage of going to the lockers.Maybe its to see how much ''integrity'' we might have or how prepared we are for school.
@sharpshooter
ReplyDeletei agree with you and many people have the same reaction if they get caught..like either act like nothing has happened or get really nervous/or try to keep cool and pretend nothing is wrong
but i have a question for you..if you were cheating and you got caught what would your reaction be??
@ gurinder the name (blank) has not really faded because there is alot of teens saying it and many others,also that word is ruining a students social life which causes them to become a loser or end up with no friends,and really that word will mostly be there for a long time,and many teens use it to define someone they really hate or dont like.
ReplyDelete@ Vanessa, i agree with you because the (blank) word can really ruin someones life like for example if some got called it maybe in middle school and then when they go to high schooll -and some people back from their middle school are their then the name is followed again
ReplyDelete@Hitakshee We live in a capitalist society.By having capitalism,it unfortunately means some humans are seen more valuable than others.Humans are all unique,they all have different personalities and statuses.Because of this,we may see one group as ''popular'' and another as ''losers''.We judge on previous experiences and unfortunately by who the person is.
ReplyDelete@ jan101 exactly thats what im saying,so the (blank)word cant really fade away because if your being bullied witht that word then it doesnt really fade it follows you for most of your life.
ReplyDeleteHeli you know how were saying that the rules are not bent very often but, well heli yeah rules are bent but happen very often because if people are not going to like to do something they hate they are going to not follow or do it just like rules, if some people don't like the rules people make of course they are not going to follow it instead they are going to bent it. one example of this is going to be in our school, UNIFORMS most of the grade 8 don't like uniforms(mostly girls)and so they wear skinny gins and things like that and that is how the bent the rule of uniforms. Just a few days ago you know how Mrs. Jackson said on the announcement and also came to our classroom and said that no one is suppose to wear anything but uniforms. But now no one follows that rule because they don't like it and so the rule is bent. So what i am trying to say is that rules is are bent very often. This is not the only way you bent the rules often but there are some other rules people follow in real world.
ReplyDeleteYes i agree Vanessa that the blank word can't always fade. But you know how you said "that the if you are bullied with that word then it doesn't really fade it and follows you for your rest of the life" i don't think it can follow you for rest of your life. What make you think that it can make you follow for rest of your life?
ReplyDelete@Hitakshee I'd like to add,that the rules bend and then snap back when the rules are bent too far.It's the few that ruin it for the most.
ReplyDelete@ hitakshee it follows you for the rest of your life because in the future you might be afraid of the world like your afraid to make friends and also you cant really move forward,even though you can move on with your life,you still have that scar in your life forever,i mean peoeple cant reverse their words.
ReplyDelete@ hitakshee i remember Ms.Jackson said we are not allowed to wear skinny jeans,but...you still wear them, so technecly you bent the rules aswell.
ReplyDelete@ gurinder or if there is a new person in power they'll snap it back if they think it suites there needs
ReplyDelete@everyone who is talking about rules being bent.... remember, rules were made to be broken :D
ReplyDelete@sami were rules really made to be broken? I think rules were made to be used as guidelines.
ReplyDelete@Alyssa, i agree, people weren't made to break rules but thus to follow it and restrict things we aren't suppose to do.
ReplyDeleteSami how are the rule made to be broken because if someone made a rule they have to follow not just bent it if you don't like them. And i agree people still do that and i am not saying that you should never break a rule but i am saying that not all the rules are made to be broken every single time.
ReplyDeletewell Vanessa yes i wear skinny jeans but not all the time and i was not saying that i am someone who never breaks the rule i am saying that most of the time people(including me) break rules just because they don't like it.
ReplyDelete@PamelaaSuccessful , do you think the situation thats happening in the book is realistic ?
ReplyDelete@ Nida ( Late Response )
Yes i do think the situation that is happening in the book is realistic because this relates to many teens in our society. Cheating on tests, getting in trouble, girlfriend and boyfriend drama and etc.
@PamelaaSuccessful, i agree with you, many teens cheat and they always think they always "get away" with it, but they end up getting caught sooner or later and they get bad consequences they thought they wouldn't get .. i think this also relates to "karma" what goes around comes around.
ReplyDelete@ Talwinder
ReplyDeleteYes karma is a great way to describe this situation because if you cheat your not going to get anywhere successful in life. If you are cheating for your whole life then when you head off to college or university you are doomed. Karma will hit you badly because you will get bad consequences in the end.
@Pamela, i agree karma is a very strong word, i think that if people cheat there not going to get anywhere in life and thus they should use there free time to do extra studying and catch upon other work. Yeah i also agree if you are in university and they catch you study you'd probably be kicked out of the school or in very much trouble .. i think that if you do something back it goes in your OSR.
ReplyDeleteBut Talwinder there are two types of karma, Good and Bad. Guess they got bad karma.
ReplyDeleteBut ya Pamela thats a good way to decribe it (Karma).
Talwinder thats true you could get kicked out or they fail you right away. In middle school they say your getting a call home.
A lot of students will be like dan when they get in trouble pretending what is going on but they end up over doing it. People for the first time that get in trouble for something big they will start freaking out and just crumble apart unable to keep their cool. Dan keeps his cool that's the thing about him. Whatever he's in trouble with he can keep his cool and predend like he doesn't know anything.
ReplyDelete@Brown_Kid, I agree with you, many kids would be just like Dan, they would be scared to death and be like don't call my parents home i'm Innocent and panicking alot. Remember the part of the book where Dan was like "don't tell my old man i'd donate my organs just let me off the hook for this one time, and i will never cheat again" .. they are very desperate at this point, they don;t want to get in trouble.
ReplyDelete@Brown_Kid I agree lots of kids would do that act like there innocent when most of the time they are.
ReplyDelete@Talwinder I also agree he did say that which makes me think that he really didn't want to get in trouble and that he was really desperate.But if he didn't want to get in trouble why did he cheat in the first place?
@Stephanie, i think most of the students when they cheat they think they will get away with it but eventually in reality they get caught, that is what Dan was thinking, if he cheats he wont get caught but in reality most likely he would get caught and get a lot of consequences.
ReplyDelete@talwinder I agree they always think they can get away with it but I think that the consequences depends on which test or quiz there cheating on.Remember in the book one of the characters said that a student had already got caught doing there first quiz and his consequence was just to re-write it after school but this is a mid term exam so the consequences are going to be different.
ReplyDelete@Stephanie, yes i agree and it also depends on what grade you are because if you are cheating in grade 4 the teachers will be like not like they no anything better, but in university, and you get caught cheating then you would probably fail and you can't do a re-take .. harsh.
ReplyDelete@talwinder very harsh but the point of taken the test is for the teacher to see how good(smart) you are in that subjcet so if you cheat you dont get the benfit from it.All you get is to make your teacher think your smart then it comes time when you cant cheat and you wont know what to do then if just make you look bad.
ReplyDelete@Stephanie, i agree the teachers take your skills to the test and see weather or not you get the subject, and at this point if you don't know anything, and you want to pass there is 2 choices, studying, or cheating, and cheating is the easier path so kids just to tend to follow it rather than studying it and remembering it for the rest of your life.
ReplyDelete@Talwinder I agree if you cheat and get caught with most of the time you do get caught you end up having to learn it so I say take the right path in the begining because it end saving you time with out yout relizing it.If you cheat and get caught you waste your time trying to convince the principal you didnt do it then you have to learn it again, when from the start if you learned it it would save alot of time.
ReplyDelete@Stephanie, i agree, once you get caught you have to the cycle all over again meaning the first time you choose to cheat get in trouble and do it again or you could have studied, good grades = good education. And if you get caught the student would get to "learn a new lesson" by never cheating, but i don't even know who created cheating because that is just wrong and it comes from also "slacking" perhaps and its just wrong, they just take the extra time from cheating and making a "plan" and use that time wisely by just studying and not getting sent to the principals office and not getting a call home and not getting consequences, see how much life is easier when you just study rather than getting caught.
ReplyDelete@Talwinder,I agree its all part of a cycle and you choose where you want to go on that cycle.When people cheat once they thinks its okay to cheat again and again,which is wrong once you cheat your just making it worst for yourself because eventually there come a time when you cant cheat and if make you start all over again.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with the part of who invented cheating because our life is not perfect and probably never will but i also agree because cheating hold you back instead of taking you forward even if you learn/hear the lecture you either choose to listen to it or ignore it and by doing that you choose your path in life but you can also change it.
@stephanie It is cycle. once you start cheating, you'll continue to cheat. Like for example, if you started smoking, it's hard to stop and can become part of your life to smoke. Cheating is similar. Once you start cheating, it's hard to stop and you just continue doing it.
ReplyDeleteI think the most realistc person is the mother because she would try to convince the principal that her son/daughter was not in trouble. Then take it out on the son/daughter and tell them that they need to do better and how to take responsbility in there work and how it's not good to cheat.
ReplyDeleteYa Stephanie I agree that cycle does comply because once you get caught cheating then you start to make up more lies to cover up your mistake. Just like Dan when hes like "I dont know what your talking about". Also " Why am I here I didn't do nothing". So that cycle does work.
ReplyDeleteBut Stephanie and Talwinder sometime its not the students fault because if the student knows that his/her teacher is a hard marker and if you put so much work into ur work and then the teacher gives u a bad mark, you would think about cheating because you know that as much effort you put into ur work you'll get a bad mark, so the only opption you have is to cheat. So sometimes its also the teachers fault that the student cheats. Also if pressure comes to the student that also makes the student think about cheating.
ReplyDeleteI just found this quote it's really affective and I really like it.
ReplyDelete“I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating”
True fair people will think this because rather put your work into your assiment and fail then put no work at all and succeed.
@Alyssa good example and yes it is just like smoking once you start it becomes a bad habit that's difficult to break but not impossible.But the cycle does not have to be the same if your choice to either break it change it start a new one.
ReplyDelete@Prayas i agree and mostly all people do that they start on a cycle choose the wrong path and chose lieing to cover it up till they fact the fact and just tell the truth .
@stephanie that is true. A cycle can be broken it just depends if you're ready to make the change and break the cycle.If you don't make the change, it doesn't mean you can't, it just means you aren't ready.
ReplyDelete@Alyssa there's that and there's that they don't think that there ready to make the change.sometimes a person telling you something can make you change your mind about something.
ReplyDelete@Stephanie yes sometimes a person telling you that you can change will make you change. But if you don't trust the person then you probably won't. And if they don't think that they are ready to make the change, isn't that the same as saying they aren't ready to make the change?
ReplyDelete@hitakshee, i dont know, thats just something i read :P i just dont like following rules, makes life boring. xP
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